August 24, 2006

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Don't forget I have posts over at Andrew Sullivan's place, too, until Labor Day weekend.

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Posted by: Limsk at August 24, 2006 06:52 AM

Noting that a Leb pol can even talk about a "peace" treaty, instead of the 1948 Armistice, is a big plus. Funny how few MSM clueless folks, nor ceasefire advocates, seem to know.

The Leb law against Leb people talking to Israelis should go, too. It should be constantly mentioned.
(of course, boring me would mention it, too often.)

Posted by: Tom Grey - Liberty Dad at August 24, 2006 08:54 AM

But Michael, we can't post comments there! :-(

Posted by: wj at August 24, 2006 09:02 AM

Post 'em here!

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at August 24, 2006 09:43 AM

PEACE TREATY

Well anything is possible, Although maybe not propable, Then again who knows.
Hezbullah isn't serrandering or bowing to Israel, Hezbullah is just stepping down to Lebanon. " So to say "
Which would be to its best interest for now. "For its survival." Hezbullah is a political party represented in the government,

Why not disarm to the Lebanese army, If there is other multnition being resupplied or in wait. It would be surrender or redirected to the Labanon's army. Labanon dose have a right to build a arsenal of its own?
Hezbullah militia becomes a auxiliary of Lebanon's army.

I would not think that Hezbullahs are total idiots just because they have idiocy ideology or their past actions, This is power play time.Think they will take full advantage of it and well play by the rules. With their fingers crossed behind the back. For lesson has been learned.

Just a scarry thought

GA to SK

Posted by: J.fly at August 24, 2006 09:44 AM

The line about learning a lesson seems to imply that Israel's strategy worked. Having Lebanon restain Hezzbollah form agression against Israel. Funny how everyone keeps saying Hezzbollah won the war. I think they lost, even though the MSM and the left lionize them.

Posted by: sedated at August 24, 2006 09:55 AM

I've been saying all along that this past round of violence wasn't the fiasco that it's been made out to be for Israel.

It might have not gone as planned, but I still believe the main objective of Israel never was to completly wipe out Hezbollah (that was an unrealistic goal). I think the main goal was to "wake up" the Lebanese government, and the Lebanese people, and drive home the necessity to internally deal with Hezbollah. This also explains the insistence of the IDF to attack civilian infrastructure in nono-Hezbollah areas, this putting pressure on the Lebanese people directly.

In my mind, this objective has been accomplished. The political situation in Lebanon is VERY different now than it was pre July 12th. The mere mention of peace treaties with Israel as but an example of the changed political scene, as Michael points out on Andrew Sullivan's blog. We're certainly not there yet, but i think the shift in MENTALITY, inside Lebanon, is a much bigger factor, long term, than the immediate military gains on the ground.

One has to keep in mind that in the end, war or peace are very much a matter of mentality, deep in a population's psyche.

Posted by: bad vilbel at August 24, 2006 10:22 AM

You have some very fine posts at Sullivan's site; sure wish you would post them here, too. I almost didn't go there to look, but am glad I did.

I wondered all along if there was any (covert)communication between Israel and Lebanon during the fighting. It would have led to some interesting possibilities about the most effective way to eliminate specific Hezbollah targets for the Lebanese government.

Posted by: E. T. at August 24, 2006 12:42 PM

The line about learning a lesson seems to imply that Israel's strategy worked.

No. Israel did not achieve it's stated objectives, and I don't think Olmert & company is clever enough to use public statements to distract their enemies from secret objectives.

That's a failure.

Having Lebanon restain Hezzbollah form agression against Israel. Funny how everyone keeps saying Hezzbollah won the war. I think they lost, even though the MSM and the left lionize them.

If you compare what was lost to what was gained, it looks like everyone involved in this lost.

Hizbullah lost equipment, infrastructure and personnel.

Lebanon lost equipment, infrastructure, and people.

Israel lost money, equipment, people, personnel, and credibility.

Iran lost equipment, money, and diplomatic leeway for it's nuclear program.

Syria lost reputation and credibility- baby Assad is widely considered to be Tehran's proxy, instead of in control of events.

Nobody came out ahead. Some people claim they did, but it's not true- watch what they actually do, instead of what they say when a TV camera is pointed at them, and see if they act like winners.

It will be interesting to see how long the hudna lasts.

Posted by: rosignol at August 24, 2006 11:46 PM

I'm sorry, I can't really bring myself to visit Sully's site anymore. I like it much better here. :)

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