June 09, 2006
Mister Zarqawi, He Dead
The world reacts:
Zoloft Pony: “Two 500lb bombs right on his safe house. NOT SO SAFE NOW, IS IT, BITCH?!”
Roger L. Simon: "Goodbye, good riddance, you human nightmare!"
Atrios: "I'm supposed to give the obligatory "YAY USA!" cheer here, but while it's good to get the bad guys I don't really think it's going to improve much. Hopefully I'm wrong."
Christopher Hitchens: "Zarqawi contributed enormously to the wrecking of Iraq's experiment in democratic federalism. He was able to help ensure that the Iraqi people did not have one single day of respite between 35 years of war and fascism, and the last three-and-a-half years of misery and sabotage. He chose his targets with an almost diabolical cunning, destroying the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad (and murdering the heroic envoy Sérgio Vieira de Melo) almost before it could begin operations, and killing the leading Shiite Ayatollah Hakim outside his place of worship in Najaf. His decision to declare a jihad against the Shiite population in general, in a document of which Weaver (on no evidence) doubts the authenticity, has been the key innovation of the insurgency: applying lethal pressure to the most vulnerable aspect of Iraqi society. And it has had the intended effect, by undermining Grand Ayatollah Sistani and helping empower Iranian-backed Shiite death squads. Not bad for a semiliterate goon and former jailhouse enforcer from a Bedouin clan in Jordan."
Will Collier: "Rest in pieces."
Loast at Fark.com: "Ok, so I'm a communist totally opposed to the US foreign policies at the moment with the exception of genuine humanitarian aid. BUT, Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was a farkin' animal. Murderer, reactionary, fanatic, what you will. Good riddance, that man was a cold blooded killer with no allegiance but his own cult. No shedding tears over a cold-blooded psychopath with hints of a messiah complex. That is, if he really is dead, which is only what the US states, and we all know how truthful those bastards are."
Scorpinoc at Fark.com: "How about we start a "head on pike" collection in the White House mens room? One head on a pike per urinal. Get some video of the US Presidential staff pissing on the heads of dead terrorists and circulate that through the middle east."
Caller on the Diane Rhem Show, in tears: "I woke up this morning and learned my country had dropped a bomb on someone's head...."
Tony Blair: "Every day we hear of the death toll through the fomenting of civil strife: a campaign of murder, and kidnapping and brutality -- all of it designed to stifle Iraqi democracy at birth, and al-Zarqawi was its most vicious prosecutor."
Iraqi blogger Hammorabi: "There were celebrations going on now in the holly city of Najaf and Kerbala. On the other hands there are sadness and shock among his allies in the region and abroad like Al-Jazeera Qatari TV and other Arab pro-terrorists thugs."
Official statement of Hamas, ie the Palestinian government: "With hearts full of faith, Hamas commends brother-fighter Abu Musab ... who was martyred at the hands of the savage crusade campaign which targets the Arab homeland, starting in Iraq."
MarcC in my comments section: "To paraphrase Jacques Chirac, Hamas missed a perfect opportunity to shut up, when they instead publicly mourned the death of Zarqawi at the hands of the savage crusader campaign aimed at the Arab heartland. And just when everybody was starting to forget the image of the Palestinian fatmas flashing V signs and tossing candies on 9/11. What a bunch of assholes."
Beirut Daily Star Editorial: "In what now appears to have been his last audiotape, he unleashed a torrent of slurs against Shiites, hopefully revealing to a great many Iraqi Sunnis that his real purpose was not their welfare but rather their cousins' subjugation and extermination. Without the presence of Zarqawi as a driving force for the perpetual acceleration of the conflict, it might be possible to engage hard-line Sunnis and convince them that their best interests lie in seeking an acceptable compromise that would permit all Iraqis to at last put conflict behind them and get on with the business of rebuilding their shattered country."
One of Big Pharoah's Egyptian Colleagues: "Man it's all a conspiracy. The Americans killed him after he became useless to them. Just like Saddam."
Egyptian Sandmonkey: "Ding Dong the asshole is dead! Zarqa is dead (He got killed on 6/6/06 nonetheless, anyone else noticed that?). The bloodthirsty Jihady fuckhead is no more, and is hopefully rotting in hell as we speak! Good-bye douchebag, it couldn't have happend to a more appropriate person!"
Karim Elsahy, One Arab World: "Death aint never been prettier."
Nouri Lumendifi, The (Algerian) Moor Next Door: "Is it bad that I am happy?"
Posted by Michael J. Totten at June 9, 2006 02:24 AM"The Meeting Ended Early"
Posted by: Bill at June 9, 2006 05:24 AMSo, it's another "mission accomplished". The man immortalised by the Americans as the most dangerous terrorist since the last most dangerous terrorist, is killed - by the Americans. A Jordanian corner-boy who could not even lock and load a machine gun is blown up by the US Air Force - and Messrs Bush and Blair see fit to boast of his demise. To this have our leaders descended. And how short are our memories
and there's a few more samples here.
Posted by: Judy at June 9, 2006 06:04 AMWow, there's a lot of mental illness in some of those comments. Notice the obviously Leftwing caller to the Dianne Reahm show with her panties in tizzie about her country dropping a "bomb"!!! waaaa!!!! on someone head. lol! Or observe how Hamas mourns Zarg's death at the hands of the "crusaders", and then turns around with cup in hand begging for our money (I have no doubt that our government will eventually pony up). And notice how Atrios can barely contain his exhilaration at the good news. He says he hopes he's wrong. I doubt that.
Posted by: Carlos at June 9, 2006 07:17 AMAt the Democratic Underground, users attempted to manipulate MSNBC's online poll to suggest that the mission to kill Zarqawi would be meaningless in the war in Iraq. Whether or not the death of Zarqawi will have a major impact on the war effort is beside the point. The efforts by liberals to manipulate a poll so as to beat down the morale of the American people and make them believe we can't win is revolting. There is a sickness that has infected the Left.
Meanwhile, at another liberal website named Daily Kos, some liberals were outright upset that the military had chosen to kill a terrorist. "Bush's idea of justice is bombs falling out of the sky?" asked a user named "Justice."
Another user named "ronik" expressed a similar sentiment: "If you agree with this killing, do you also agree with lynchings because people 'knew' the person was guilty and should be put to death? Also, do you support the death penalty? I don't, but at least those people have been put on trial. Why should it be different for this person?"
Do these people not realize our nation is at war, and the enemy is attempting to kill our troops and eventually murder the rest of us here in the United States?
Apparently not, because another Daily Kos member offered consolation about Zarqawi's death, opining that, "This too shall pass."
Posted by: Carlos at June 9, 2006 07:21 AMAt least Atrios isn't delusional like Hitchens. Zarqawi was a figure head of the Ba'athists, nothing mlore. Zarqawi the man was just a two-bit thug living off Bin Laden's money and Baathist support, and according to the Atlantic, Iranian money as well. The reason Zarqawi's death is very good news is because it signals that important Sunni factions seem to be willing to come to the table and participate constructively in the government. When Zarqawi's usefulness to these Sunni elements ended they basically had him disposed of (by passing the info to the US). Hitchen's continues to try to downplay the fact that native Iraqis are the true leaders of the Iraqi terror campaign. The ironic bit is that if Hitchens is right than Zarqawi's death isn't really a big deal at all because there are certainly more Jordanian thugs willing to take Zarqawi's place. If I'm right, (that Zarqawi was just a figure-head) than his death is a very big deal because it means the Iraqi baathists have decided terror is no longer the way to go.
Posted by: vanya at June 9, 2006 07:30 AMNice roundup Michael! Especially liked the first quote!
I think it's important to remember that these self flatulated and promoted thugs, promoted grandiose style by their own videotapes, Al Jazeera, Arab myth making and myth making of the Western liberal press - are only common human thugs, not tough guys but cowards who hide and murder defenseless civilians. Bravery is fighting on the battlefield not murdering a civilian while he's tied up and bound and chanting Allahu Akhbar....
In Moscow on the Hudson, at the end of the movie Robin Williams bumps into the KGB agent from the beginning of the movie that tried to scare him and chase him down to prevent him from defecting and now he was simply selling hot dogs on the street.... just a regular guy now without his appointed position.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Nargizian at June 9, 2006 11:12 AMFrome the father of Nick Berg.
"BERG: Well, you know, I'm not saying Saddam Hussein was a good man, but he's no worse than George Bush. Saddam Hussein didn't pull the trigger, didn't commit the rapes. Neither did George Bush, but both men are responsible for them under their reigns of terror. I don't buy that."
Posted by: Steve at June 9, 2006 01:30 PMVanya said most of it well, but there's the issue of who, if anybody, will replace Zarqawi. And how will the internal winner be sure he's not turned in by one of his rivals -- it's going to be easier and easier to find peripheral not-quite core terrorists who know enough to finger a terrorist and get away with reporting them.
If a majority of the Sunni terrorists give up terrorism, that could be great news. Zarqawi's death, along with the 3 new ministers, is a face-saving reason to "postpone" activities.
Posted by: Tom Grey - Libertay Dad at June 9, 2006 03:31 PMA lot of Kool-Aid drinkers in the mix. Fisk's rant was especially ludicrous. I may be going out on a limb here, but willing to believe that most true liberals (you know the ones not drunk on anti-Bush haterade or anti-war Kool-Aid) are glad that murderous bastard is dead.
Posted by: Rafique Tucker at June 9, 2006 10:38 PMSteve, I was also concerned about what Mr. Berg said. But, in all honesty, the man has every right to feel any way he chooses. If it makes his days easier to blame both sides for this then let him have it. I can't imagine knowing what he knows . It would make me a crazy person for all eternity.
Posted by: mca at June 9, 2006 11:26 PMPersonally, it isn't really important who will replace Zarqawi. What is important is that a state of law and order exist in Iraq so that the next Zarqawi to step up to the plate will either end up in jail or with a bullet in the chest the day after he does so.
Posted by: Omega80 at June 9, 2006 11:46 PMNow all the poor brown people have to worry about is the murdering gis, american backed sdeath squads and the stray shells which somehow seem to find palestinian beach goers or irai people in their own homes.
I see no reason to celebrate until the war criminals, bush and blair are brought to justice for their crimes.
Though I hate to rejoice at the death of any human being, regardless of his acts, I do rejoice that there is one less voice of oppression and intolerance and I hope that this will make things a little easier for the people of Iraq. This man cared for nothing so much as he did death and hate, and he died appropriately enough as he lived.
On a side note, what is with this perverse desire to pay more attention to those who aren't satisfied with this good news? I find these comments more irritating than the folks who are disagreeing. These people aren't posting at this site. Why not post your comments on the comments pages of the idiots who made these statements? Or are you fishing for arguments?
Posted by: Tony S at June 10, 2006 02:04 AMdamn my ISP,
I was visitng here every few days and apparently the proxy cached your website and I wasnt getting updates.
I thought you stopped writting here since may.
and I refreshed today...and woah...surprise plenty of new articles.
damn amateurish ISPs.
6-6-06 was a good day of justice for the many hundreds of innocent Iraqi Muslim victims. Who's next? Line 'em up!
Posted by: a Duoist at June 10, 2006 09:38 AMAh, ocratic Underground.
I'm a bit embarrased to admit I used to hang out there. That place (which I used to enjoy being a part of) has truly become a stronghold of the intractably anti-war Left. Maybe it always has been. It's like a left-wing Free Republic, even though DU still tolerates dissent more than Free Republic does.
Posted by: Rafique Tucker at June 10, 2006 10:13 AMAh, Democratic Underground.
I'm a bit embarrased to admit I used to hang out there. That place (which I used to enjoy being a part of) has truly become a stronghold of the intractably anti-war Left. Maybe it always has been. It's like a left-wing Free Republic, even though DU still tolerates dissent more than Free Republic does.
Kos is as always, Kos.
Posted by: Rafique Tucker at June 10, 2006 10:14 AMWissam: damn amateurish ISPs.
That's one thing I don't miss about Lebanon.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at June 10, 2006 11:25 AMBut, in all honesty, the man has every right to feel any way he chooses.
No he doesn't. The man is a narcissistic asshat. Last time I said that about Michael Berg our forgiving host got on my case, but I stand by my opinion. Some folks really are jerks and ol' Stalinist Berg is one of them. I've seen plenty other such among the boomers and they don't get a free pass from me.
And all that "peace activist" stuff is crap. The man was associated with International Answer, and as far as I am concerned he is scum.
Posted by: chuck at June 10, 2006 09:28 PM"every right to feel any way he chooses"
This is true about Berg's father no less than about Zarqawi -- and Zarqawi felt like hacking the heads off of folks who favored freedom.
Zarqawi had every right to choose to feel that murder is OK, but no right to ACT. A big problem on the Left is the confusion over the right to feel something, and the right to act. The actions are what is wrong enough to use gov't force to stop, and punish.
The "PC evil" about having racist feelings, for instance, has led to hate speech laws, restricting free speech. While speech is an action, it's mostly an expression of feeling.
The French police have NOT been using enough force to stop Muslim young men from raping the Muslim women they feel like raping.
It is also true that how you feel is significantly, if not mostly, a matter of choice. Those full of Bush-hate, or America-hate, or Left-hate (me?!), have chosen to be full. (I'm trying to not hate.)
I couldn't help but think that both Casey Sheehan and Nick Berg disagreed with the hate they felt in their parents, and made choices which their parents didn't like. Deliberately making those choices. And the parents hate that their children defied them.
[I'm not schizophrenic. And neither am I.]
Posted by: Tom Grey - Libertay Dad at June 11, 2006 12:21 AMWhy can't Atrios just say "YAY"? That was my reaction. Nobody would complain that he left out "USA".
Posted by: maor at June 11, 2006 07:15 AM>>>Now all the poor brown people have to worry about is the murdering gis,
ah yes, the proverbial "poor brown people". What would they do without you Lefties to feed and groom them, and take them to the vet for their shots. Methinks the poor brown people's chances of survival will increase drastically once we defeat the jihadis, "murdering GIs" notwithstanding.
Posted by: Carlos at June 11, 2006 07:28 AMBerg's widow (on FoxNews) was very happy and doesn't understand his father. Said, being of Sicilian background she was quite happy with the outcome.
Posted by: notBobDobbs at June 11, 2006 10:25 AMThe response on the left is stunning. This thug sawed peoples heads off! He called for a Sunni dominated iraq where Shia's and Kurds would be regulated to serf status under their Sunni masters. He bombed wedding parties. And for someone who 'didn't matter" he got more press then almost any terror leader other then Bin Laden. He was a stain on humanity yet the left feels the need to mourn his passing. Blair and Bush announced his death without yee haws and atttaboys. President Bush said that this was not "the end" of the conflict, he said nothing close to 'mission accomplished." Yet the left is setting up the strawman argument that almost no one is advancing. This filth can no longer saw heads off, tape them, and revel in this sick practice. This very fact alone is a reason to say "Thank God he is gone from this earth." Instead it is treated as bad news. Does this mean they think we should have passed on the option of killing him? Should we have let him continue to practice his sick trade? Why is this bad news?
Posted by: kevinpeters at June 12, 2006 11:49 AMKevinpeters,
Why would you post such nonsense? Who on the left is mourning Zarqawi? Who is saying his death is "bad news"? I'm sorry to tell you Zarqawi is pretty much universally despised. Why do you so desperately want to believe that the left sympathizes with Al Qaeda? I often get the feeling that for people like you this war really has nothing to do with Islam at all, it's just a proxy for the war you really want on American's who don't agree with your political views.
Posted by: vanya at June 12, 2006 01:30 PMVanya:
I heard the news early and as I started to surf the net my initial thought was, well, this will be considered good news by all, whether one was against the war or not no one could miss this human filth. But as I surfed I was astounded at the need by a large section of the blogosphere to try to spin this issue. First it was, "oh, this means nothing, Z was a nobody." Well, the amount of attention given this non-entity surely didn't bely that attitude before his death.' Then the "why was he bombed rather then captured" meme sprung up, trying to start up the conspiracy train. The AP jumped on the "I saw Z beat up by the soldiers" story and the conspiracy theory hit the net. Almost every comment section I went to was infested by one of these strains of argument.
I did not claim that the left "sympathizes" with Al Queda as you write. I do think that the left is so driven by the hate of Bush, which they have the absolute right to have if they so choose, that they had to find a way to minimize or turn the removal of Z from this earth into bad thing.Not because they like him. But because they want to make sure that there is no good news regarding the conflict. Even the death of this "despised" individual. "Oh, there will be reprisals!" As if the insurgents were in some form of truce or holding back before he died.. "Oh, they will just replace him" Using that logic we should give up trying to get Bin Laden? Coming out and just simply saying "Good, he is gone" would not have meant someone was signing up for the "I love Bush" club. It wouldn't even mean anyone was for the conflict. But so many posts were dominiated with one line grudgingly saying good and paragraphs saying "Buuuttttt!!!!!" This isn't a sign of sophistication. It is partisanship run wild.
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