August 23, 2005

British Muslims Say Good Riddance to Bakri

Several hundred British Muslims tell the hatemongering cleric Omar Bakri (who recently fled accusations of treason) to stay the hell out of Britain forever.

To Omar Bakri Mohammad,

We, British Muslims, urge you not to return to the United Kingdom.

You have caused enough trouble already. Your statements, pronouncements and fatwas are neither supported nor looked kindly upon - except by the British media which seems to have a strange love-affair with you.

You have single-handedly sought to destroy good community relations and have been an obstacle to the progress of British Muslims in becoming integral citizens who live, as stated in the shariah, according to the law of this land.

Our varied vision of Islam in Britain does not include yours. We emphasise mercy, tolerance and diversity while you emphasise hate, violence, hypocrisy and separation from others. If the United Kingdom is as bad as you teach your minions, then you have no reason to live here.

You are a poor example of the Prophetic message (peace and blessings be upon him) and for that alone you should stay out of this country and our lives forever.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned
Meanwhile, a paranoid anti-Semitic nutjob who calls Osama bin Laden a “freedom fighter” has been chosen for a Home Office task force to tackle Islamist extremism in Britain. Something tells me (see above) the Home Office can do much better than this.

Posted by Michael J. Totten at August 23, 2005 01:26 PM

Comments

Is this yet another anemic example of how "moderates" are fighting back?

She is a nobody in the muslim community of Britain, and her online petition is signed by less than 500 people. 'Impressive' would not be the word that comes to mind.

On the other hand, the anti-semitic nutjob assigned for the Home Office taskforce is a prominent member of the British muslim community.

Posted by: spaniard at August 23, 2005 01:48 PM

I'm guessing she won't be a nobody for much longer.

Posted by: Gene at August 23, 2005 02:52 PM

Spaniard,

How many British Muslims do you think have even seen this online petition?

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at August 23, 2005 03:45 PM

Always good to hear from moderate Muslims. The Free Muslim Coalition are good guys too.

I hope this gets more press.

Posted by: TallDave at August 23, 2005 03:56 PM

Heh... it'll be a cold day in Hell before American Christians will hold Pat Robertson to a comparable standard.

While the hypocrisy of that double standard is clearly lost on a certain segment of the American public, you can bet that Muslims are keenly aware of it.

I submit that the double standard serves the cause of people like Osama bin Laden.

Posted by: Kevin at August 23, 2005 04:09 PM

Engage moral equivalence shields! Launch sarcasm torpedoes!

Seriously, Kevin, start an online petition calling for Pat Robertson to stop being such a two-faced prick. I'll sign it.

(Not that I'm a Christian or anything, but I understand that I am a member of the VRWC, even though no one will show me the secret handshake...)

Posted by: Mark Poling at August 23, 2005 04:51 PM

(Not that I'm a Christian or anything, but I understand that I am a member of the VRWC, even though no one will show me the secret handshake...)--MP

And certainly not after your freely volunteered 'confession' to whom it may concern.
Sheesh, it's a conspiracy , Mark.

Shhhh---

Posted by: dougf at August 23, 2005 05:16 PM

Kevin,

Heh... it'll be a cold day in Hell before American Christians will hold Pat Robertson to a comparable standard.

Yeah, they all look and talk the same and belong to the one true denomination. Don't know why decent white folk would want to hang out with 'em.

Posted by: chuck at August 23, 2005 05:29 PM

Kevin,

why don't you go to the evangelical websites to see what they're actually saying about Robertson's comments instead of spouting off like an ignorant moron. Start with this one:

http://www.worldmagblog.com/blog/

Posted by: spaniard at August 23, 2005 05:41 PM

How many British Muslims do you think have even seen this online petition?

I hope not many. But the fact that some nobody in the muslim community can make news with an online petition and barely 500 signatures is very telling and pathetic.

Posted by: spaniard at August 23, 2005 05:51 PM

Spaniard: I'd rather give the originator of the petition props for putting it online, and for the 500 people who've signed it so far. And I'd also note that part of the problem is the British government and its zeal to pander to the most radical muslim elements in their country, and thereby empower said radical elements at the expense of more moderate voices.

Posted by: Sean P at August 23, 2005 06:10 PM

There has clearly been a small amount of progress in the Muslim world, and it's rate does seem to be gradually increasing. The question is will it gather momentum quickly enough to avoid a major catastrophe. I tend to doubt that it will.

Posted by: exhelodrvr at August 23, 2005 06:30 PM

Sean P,

Spaniard: I'd rather give the originator of the petition props for putting it online, and for the 500 people who've signed it so far.

Everything has to start somewhere. Ideas move slowly at best. It could be decades before a new direction takes hold. Makes me appreciate just how quickly the Japanese adapted.

Posted by: chuck at August 23, 2005 06:50 PM

Spaniard: I'd rather give the originator of the petition props for putting it online, and for the 500 people who've signed it so far.

Sean,

I agree, but only give props where they're due-- to this woman and the few people who signed it.

Posted by: spaniard at August 23, 2005 07:05 PM

Spaniard,

You call that World Mag Blog's "not exactly the Gospel" quip comparable to this letter by British Muslims? Surely you jest. It's not remotely comparable.

Posted by: Kevin at August 23, 2005 07:58 PM

Chuck,

You sayin' that British Muslims are a monolithic block of sameness and unanimity?

Posted by: Kevin at August 23, 2005 08:00 PM

Kevin,

It was your fart fella, don't look at me.

Posted by: chuck at August 23, 2005 08:32 PM

Kevin,

no it's not comparable. Neither are Bakri and Robertson comparable.

Posted by: spaniard at August 23, 2005 08:32 PM

Funny, the way I read this it says, "Don't come back here, they will put you in jail and you won't be able to complete your lifes work" I'd want him back, so the English can get info from him.

Posted by: plainslow at August 24, 2005 07:00 AM

Not many names from Leeds, it looks like.

Posted by: Asher Abrams - Dreams Into Lightning at August 24, 2005 07:29 AM

Plainslow: Funny, the way I read this it says, "Don't come back here, they will put you in jail and you won't be able to complete your lifes work"

You really need to read it again.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at August 24, 2005 01:12 PM

I'll have to defer to Michael's expertise in the matter of when a Muslim is telling the truth to a infidel. But I've read too many stories where they say one thing to an infidel, and another to a fellow Muslim. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
I looked at the letter as a show for the English. I hope Michael is right and the letter is sincere.

Posted by: plainslow at August 25, 2005 01:11 PM
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