Michael J. Totten: They Can Hear You Now

August 11, 2005

They Can Hear You Now

When I was in Beirut in April one of the leaders of the Cedar Revolution, Nabil Abou-Charaf, told me that Syrian intelligence agents used cell phones to “spy” on people.

“You mean they monitor your phone conversations,” I said.

“No," he said. "They can listen to us all the time even when we’re not using the phone.” He could tell I didn’t believe him. “We know as a fact they can do this.”

The Middle East is notoriously paranoid. When your country is infested with secret police that will happen. Nabil had good reasons himself to be paranoid. He told me he had already been arrested and beaten for standing up to the Syrian puppet regime. Just a week before I met him someone ran his car off the road and left a message on his answering machine and said that was just the beginning.

Still, I didn’t believe what he said about spies using his cell phone as a bug. If the cell phone is off or just sitting there it isn’t transmitting a signal.

Looks like I was wrong. Julian Sanchez at Hit and Run points out this chilling excerpt from a story in last week’s Guardian.

The main means of tracking terrorist suspects down has been the monitoring of mobile phone conversations. Not only can operators pinpoint users to within yards of their location by "triangulating" the signals from three base stations, but - according to a report in the Financial Times - the operators (under instructions from the authorities) can remotely install software onto a handset to activate the microphone even when the user is not making a call.

I’m sure the police love this feature. Police states apparently love it, as well.

Posted by Michael J. Totten at August 11, 2005 09:49 AM

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This has been know for quite awhile within the DOD. That's why cell-phone must be off, and in some cases disallowed, inside areas where classified work is going on. Worse, most cell phones are coming standard with cameras. From a security standpoint this is a nightmare. From a privacy standpoint, well we have lost it as any search of the internet will show. I watched a segment on 'upskirting' on NBC and hidden cameras, both government, private, and individual will only become more common. It will also probably push skirt length lower...

Posted by: buffpilot at August 11, 2005 10:10 AM

Of course, the simplest solution to this is to remove the battery. It's been known for a while that cellphone users can be physically located and tracked; the bug thing is a new one on me, though.

Posted by: Slartibartfast at August 11, 2005 10:19 AM

I just want to confirm "buffpilot"s comment. It is a problem in security areas.

Also note how quickly the Italians triangulated the CIA guys by their cell phones.

Posted by: MikeZ at August 11, 2005 11:11 AM

I used to work for a consumer electronics outfit where most - nay, all - of the products were shoddy and full of short circuits. One time a man fed up with buying new batteries cut into the case, found the short, soldered on a manual on/off switch, and then sent the contraption back to us with time & materials bill in the amount of US$800. That was a keeper. I suppose the mechanically inclined could do the same thing with a cell phone.

Posted by: Tom at August 11, 2005 11:12 AM

Yet another confirmation. We've been told this many times by security at work. The only acceptable solution is to remove the battery. It's usually easier to just leave the phone in your car.

Just goes to show you, you're not paranoid if people really are out to get you...

Posted by: KeithK at August 11, 2005 11:32 AM

Why of course your phone's software can be modified to initiate/terminate a call "on its own", while not displaying anything to reveal there is an ongoing call.

Not easy, though:

1. For those who know anything about phone software: it requires significant software control/testing to be monkeying with the software. Otherwise, your phone is likely to crash or otherwise work improperly, including defective audio.

2. Batteries are going to... drain quickly (ever heard of 30 hrs standby/5 hrs talk-time?)

3. In the U.S., a wiretap order from a judge would be necessary, with rare exceptions as provided by Patriot law and others.

Cheers,

Posted by: Xavi at August 11, 2005 11:34 AM

Why of course your phone's software can be modified to initiate/terminate a call "on its own", while not displaying anything to reveal there is an ongoing call.

Not easy, though:

2. Batteries are going to... drain quickly (ever heard of 30 hrs standby/5 hrs talk-time?)

3. In the U.S., a wiretap order from a judge would be necessary, with rare exceptions as provided by Patriot law and others.

Cheers,

Posted by: Xavi at August 11, 2005 11:34 AM

Amazing isn't it. I thought for sure I could here Dick Chaney breathing heavy through my cell phone even though it was turned off.

Posted by: bob at August 11, 2005 12:12 PM

That explains my f***ing battery life....

Posted by: Mark Poling at August 11, 2005 12:15 PM

In the U.S., a wiretap order from a judge would be necessary, with rare exceptions as provided by Patriot law and others.

Some of the legal requirements for obtaining a warrant under the Patriot Act have changed, but there are no exceptions under the PA in which a wiretap or search is allowed without a court issued warrant.

Posted by: spaniard at August 11, 2005 12:16 PM

Oh, and Xavi, I think I worry less about the U.S. Government knowing how to do it than everybody else on the planet being clued in.

I grew up with party lines. Jeez, add a financial incentive (say, trolling conversations around Wall Street for juicy inside info) and pretty soon you can assume any give five seconds of your life will be monitored by some guy with hygiene problems and a fixation on that chick from X-Men (no, that other chick! the hot one!)

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Posted by: Francis at August 11, 2005 01:28 PM

Francis, I looked at your entry. They are good points, but, having actually written code to run on multiple platforms in BREW and J2ME, I can tell you that it is totally possible. And yes, you would probably only notice because of battery life, but if you turn the vocoder way down you could disguise that too. Though there are a lot of different phones, they all depend on just a handful of differnt types of chips to provide actual phone services.

The only way to guarantee that noone is messing with you is to pop the battery. Second best is to use a clamshell phone and keep it in your pocket.

Posted by: Jon Gallagher at August 11, 2005 04:58 PM

That's totally creepy.

Posted by: Grant McEntire at August 11, 2005 05:34 PM

Jon turning the vocoder sampling rate down might reduce the power consumption, but it will also reduce the audio quality.

If someone is trying to eavesdrop on you when your mouth isn't next to the microphone, they had better be listening carefully and hope the person is speaking clearly within 5 feet of the mobile.

Posted by: Jono at August 11, 2005 08:52 PM

This would also require someone to get physical access to your phone, save your settings, change the basic O/S, and then import all your previous settings. I believe its possible but probably very limited in scope especially with terrorists because it would require someone the terrorist trusts to get this type of access. I think the triangulation is usually not very accurate. The information that is probably most used is knowing which tower they are accessing and then when that tower changes giving them a very rough idea of where they are and where they are heading.

Posted by: John Wenning at August 11, 2005 11:15 PM

Jon turning the vocoder sampling rate down might reduce the power consumption, but it will also reduce the audio quality.

Absolutely correct jono, so you would probably only do it to just above the level of detectability, e.g. you're getting good levels, now turn it down to the lowest possible level. Vocoders and everything else are dynamic on modern phones. Networks regularly turn down the 13K vocoders (fabulous speech reproduction) down to around 4K to increase network capacity.

As to John W., nope you don't need to do anything like that. The user-level software on your phone (like BREW or J2ME apps) can be changed easily over the network. The firmware can as well, but that requires a reboot (easy to do in the middle of the night) to load. And that's all without using any theoretical backdoor that would bring the phone into compliance with the CALEA regs (http://www.askcalea.net/fccregs.html).

BTW, you don't have the right to change the software on your phone, but the network provider does. You are on that network at their sufferance, so, for example, they can turn off the Bluetooth on your Treo 650 (see http://tinyurl.com/bw79n). All in all, if you're doing something bad, you probably don't want to carry around a cell phone while doing it. But, the bad guys, the really bad guys, already knew this.

Way back when we were getting real-time signals intelligence about Osama Bin Laden because he used GSM and sat-phones. THen someone talked. We were also getting real-time intel about Iran, before someone told a member of Chalabi's group and the Iranians redid their comm structure. But none of that was important because it was more important to invade Iraq. And that's gone well

Posted by: Jon Gallagher at August 12, 2005 11:05 AM

Couldn't this eavesdropping (eardropping?) be thwarted by using a carrying case with a sponge or something similar over the microphone? You could run some tests via a friend calling you up, you using various kinds of baffles (maybe even a bandaid over the mike) and asking can you hear me now? until your friend can't.

Posted by: Al Pratt at August 12, 2005 11:10 AM

My phone is tapped. I know it is tapped because of the funny noises I always here. I also know it's tapped because there are times in which I can hear other people over the line talking about something I just said (eg, he's talking to his girlfriend).

Also, the comments on battery life explain a lot. My phone has much longer battery life in Italy, Jordan and Dubai than in Lebanon. I always thought it was because of voltage, or something like that. It still might be because of electrical problems, but my attention has just become atune to another possibility.

There are many times in which I have audio and connection problems. I don't face those kinds of problems using the same exact phone when I am outside of Lebanon.

But, you know what? I learned to live with it a long time ago.

Posted by: lebanon.profile at August 12, 2005 03:48 PM

I just want to confirm "buffpilot"s comment. It is a problem in security areas.

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