June 13, 2005
Microsoft Bans “Democracy”
If you’re thinking about starting your own blog, I suggest you don’t use MSN Spaces. (Hat tip: Roger L. Simon.)
Microsoft's new Chinese internet portal has banned the words "democracy" and "freedom" from parts of its website in an apparent effort to avoid offending Beijing's political censors.This isn’t the first time Microsoft sold out to the Beijing regime.Users of the joint-venture portal, formally launched last month, have been blocked from using a range of potentially sensitive words to label personal websites they create using its free online blog service, MSN Spaces.
Attempts to input words in Chinese such as "democracy" prompted an error message from the site: "This item contains forbidden speech. Please delete the forbidden speech from this item." Other phrases banned included the Chinese for "demonstration", "democratic movement" and "Taiwan independence.
Several years ago, when I worked for Intel as a technical writer, I bought Microsoft’s Manual of Style for tech writers. (It was Intel’s company-wide standard and probably still is.) The book’s purpose is to make sure everyone uses, spells, punctuates, and capitalizes terms like “Web site,” “Internet,” “cd-rom,” and so on, the same way.
While flipping through the book I noticed Taiwan, of all things, had its own entry. Taiwan, according to Microsoft…wait for it… belongs to China. Totalitarian propaganda has actually made its way into a style guide for user manual and Help file writers.
There’s only one reason Microsoft would do this sort of thing: money. They want their products sold in China without hassle from the regime. So the way to make them stop collaborating with oppressive regimes is to dent in their profits in this country. Just boycott MSN Spaces. And tell Microsoft why.
Oh, and here's a free hint to Chinese MSN Spaces users: It's spelled "d3m0cr@cy."
Posted by Michael J. Totten at June 13, 2005 09:02 AMCan we still use "Whiskey" and "Sexy?"
Posted by: elgato at June 13, 2005 09:13 AMThis is just another example of why Microsoft is a horrible representative of America.
Then again, the US government constantly lets the Chinese get away with murder: attacks on the Falun Gong, support of genocide-engaged Sudan, support of nuclear North Korea, threats against democratic Taiwan, support of piracy, imprisoning journalists, executing people for political crimes, etc.
Is this something Bill Gates would have knowledge of? If yes, then that would explain his generosity to Liberal causes (gun control, planned parenthood, etc.). He's a guilt-ridden Liberal, and now we know why.
Posted by: spaniard at June 13, 2005 10:16 AMUh, Michael. The Taiwanese Government also claims that officially Taiwan is part of China. That's why Taiwan is called the Republic of China. According to both Governments it's not a question of Taiwan's independence as much as which Government is legitimate. Obviously the "two China" fiction has become farcical, and there is now real support in Taiwan for making de facto independence official, but note there is nowhere near universal support for independence as descendents of the mainland refugees don't want to be swallowed up by the "natives". But that doesn't change the fact that Microsoft's Style Guide appears (from the little you write) to reflect the official position of Taiwan as well. I agree with you about Microsoft's cravenness, but your example is not the greatest. Go Linux.
Posted by: Vanya at June 13, 2005 10:22 AMJust to be clear, what is it that Microsoft brought to the joint venture? They might have brought software that allows filtering based on certain words and the organization using it might have the ability to modify the list of filtered words. A "family friendly" organization using it would put curse words in the filter list while a repressive government would add words like "democracy".
If Microsoft is just providing this kind of general functionality, then they have done nothing wrong.
Does anyone know this system in enough detail to tell us if this is all that has happened?
Posted by: Lewis at June 13, 2005 10:22 AMYeah, I'd need to know more about who did the actual programming.
Posted by: Kimmitt at June 13, 2005 10:56 AMLewis,
It's blog software, therefore not like an email system at a corporation or government office. If "democracy" is prohibited, that's because it's built into the software. The blogger himself is not going to ban his own use of that word, and no company is between the blogger and the Internet except Microsoft.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at June 13, 2005 10:57 AMMicrosoft should be shamed for such a move. They have been trying to placate those liberals who are watching it by reconsidering their dropping of support for an anti-gay discrimination bill in Washington. Their decision to ban the word "democracy" is horrible.
Posted by: Kevin at June 13, 2005 11:22 AMSpaniard: Is this something Bill Gates would have knowledge of? If yes, then that would explain his generosity to Liberal causes (gun control, planned parenthood, etc.). He's a guilt-ridden Liberal, and now we know why
Oh, please. This is about making money in China, not sucking up to a totalitarian regime because he has a jackboot fetish - or whatever it is you're trying to imply here.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at June 13, 2005 11:45 AMThis is about making money in China, not sucking up to a totalitarian regime because he has a jackboot fetish - or whatever it is you're trying to imply here.
Michael,
He's sucking up to China in order to make money, which I'm implying fills him with guilt, and that explains his guilt-ridden Liberal ways. White guilt is what drives Liberalism.
Posted by: spaniard at June 13, 2005 12:04 PMSo a Capitalist company, modified its software to make a profit and people think thats wrong?
That's America, isn't it?
I mean why should Microsoft worry about silly little words like Democracy, when we as a nation are pouring tons of Yuan into communist coffers? If the White House doesn't take a stand against China, why should Microsoft?
If the White House maintains relations with Uzbekistan, because the ends justify the means... then why shouldn't Microsoft?
I wonder how many who decry such actions have Windows installed on their computer? How many use Internet Explorer? How many use Microsoft Office?
How many have imported clothes, fresh from China? Shoes? cheap electronics?
A Free market drives the corporation. If the free market is made up of lazy slobs, who can't be bothered to think... then why should Microsoft?
Posted by: Ratatosk, Squirrel of Discord at June 13, 2005 12:50 PMChina is another issue where the all the usual blather about "liberal vs. conservative" falls apart. A lot of the "Free Tibet", pro-environment left really hates China in a visceral way you won't find on the Right. Certainly Hollywood limousine liberal types seem to dislike China, even if some of the more anti-American Chomskyist types seem willing to give China a pass if it will stand up to the USA. What I would call the elite Democratic centrists, people like Tom Friedman and the editorial board of the Washington Post, seem to have a lot of admiration for China even if they make the noises about human rights abuses. On the other hand a significant number of pro-business conservatives have very cozy relationships with China and the Chinese leadership (Murdoch, George H.W. Bush, the entire Carlyle Group, most Fortune 500 CEOs, etc.). But the stereotypical neo-con position is that China is an emerging threat to US security almost on a par with Islamic fundamentalism, one that has to be dealt with, probably better sooner rather than later. My impression is that your average center-right American doesn't really trust China but is willing to be optimistic about China, since optimism is the default American position. China doesn't fit easily into US paradigms - it is a pro-capitalist, pro-business, anti-Christian, imperialist oligarchy opposed to Islamic fundamentalism but also opposed to US hegemony. Since we are still stuck in a two-party state the most likely result is paralysis, with neither the Democrats nor the Republicans able to agree on a coherent China policy and events will continue to develop more or less on China's terms.
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Posted by: Zed at June 13, 2005 01:31 PM"He's sucking up to China in order to make money, which I'm implying fills him with guilt, and that explains his guilt-ridden Liberal ways. White guilt is what drives Liberalism."
What a moron.
Posted by: Dustin Ridgeway at June 13, 2005 03:37 PM"The book’s purpose is to make sure everyone uses, spells, punctuates, and capitalizes terms like “Web site,” “Internet,” “cd-rom,” and so on, the same way."
That's surprising to hear from a company whose word processor spell check did not recognize the word 'internet'...
Posted by: Preston at June 13, 2005 03:42 PMI guess I would have to say BFD on this one. Every company doing business with China (or any other country) makes compromises - Dell, Intel, Wal-Mart, you name it. The compromises will change over time. When you buy a child's toy it has an 80% chance of being made in China. If you buy an American flag chances are it was made in China too.
Building a middle class is the best thing that can happen in China to bring on reforms - it's always easier for a totalitarian government to control people in poverty. Microsoft and the other companies are helping to build the middle class there. The Chinese government knows what's coming. They brought over a large number of people to observe the 2004 Presidential elections here. The middle class is already getting restless there - things are changing.
Optionally, the US could refuse to do business with China like it does with Cuba - gee, that policy has worked briliantly to bring reforms to Cuba over the past 45 years.
Posted by: markytom at June 13, 2005 05:29 PM"A Free market drives the corporation. If the free market is made up of lazy slobs, who can't be bothered to think... then why should Microsoft?"--Tosk
Exactly. Why should Microsoft be the 'good guy 'here ? It's not as if they could do China any damage even should they refuse to license their software under the imposed conditions. Microsoft exists to MAKE MONEY.Period. Microsoft is much more concerned about piracy of its many software packages than it is about a blogging tool. Why should it rock the Chinese boat unless it absolutely has to ? I wouldn't if I ran the corporation. Would you ?
As markytom so succintly states --- bfd .
It's not personal ; it's just business.
Posted by: dougf at June 13, 2005 05:57 PMWith Apple going to Intel processors will this finally give us the chance to give Winblows the boot?
Posted by: Jace at June 13, 2005 08:13 PMLewis, It's blog software, ... The blogger himself is not going to ban his own use of that word
I understand that. However, there are several reasons an intermediary company would want a filter list. Imagine a "family friendly" company building a computer environment. They might offer parental controls for surfing, along with a whole host of features, such as web page building and blogging software. They might want to filter cursewords. I can even imagine companies wanting to filter not to ban but to give priority to other services.
Microsoft might have provided a general purpose tool to their joint venture partner that includes the ability to build and maintain filter lists for various purposes. They might have built something even more general like a rule based system where the intermediary (between Microsoft and the actual blogger) can build rules. There are numerous general purpose tools that would give an intermediary the ability to ban certain words without Microsoft actually writing the specific words to ban. I'll ask again, does anyone know enough about this story to know if this is the sort of thing that happened?
Lewis
Posted by: Lewis at June 13, 2005 09:03 PMInterestingly I posted a personal "mea culpa" regarding a past employer's assistance in this internet crackdown, found here.
Posted by: sean at June 13, 2005 10:40 PMPolitics aside, if MSFT didn't do what it takes to keep license privileges in China, the Chinese would just clone or pirate the software anyway. It's not like they have leverage over the CCP. I'm idealogically with MJT here, but don't expect Bill to forgo profits for no good purpose.
Thanks for the tips anyway; it's hard enough to get anything done on the internet here without MSFT helping the goons get in our way!
Posted by: Sam_S (shenzhenRen) at June 14, 2005 02:03 AMHere's an interesting response from a journalist/reporter who has lived in China for 12 years: My Response to Scoble
It's very true, most Chinese hate it when foreigners lecture them about how they should change. They hate being patronized. Many view the common American attitude of "we're here to save you and make you free" as condescending and hypocritical. They'd rather continue living under their extremely imperfect political situation in hopes that eventually it will change, and that this change will be accomplished by Chinese people in a Chinese way. Only then will they have ownership both of the change and of the result. Otherwise, the change will be considered foreign-imposed, and the Chinese violently detest foreign-imposed anything. Even ones who privately and quietly detest their government.
I agree with Scoble: no outsiders, including Microsoft, can force China to change. But nobody's asking Microsoft to force China to do anything. The issue is whether Microsoft should be collaborating with the Chinese regime as it builds an increasingly sophisticated system of Internet censorship and control.
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I can tell you one more thing about the Chinese. They hear what you say, then they watch how you do business. From there, it's pretty easy to figure out what your real values are.
If Microsoft supplies the Chicom government with OS, I give the panderin' mao-mao's another year before the whole government goes blue-screen.
Seriously, folks. Mickeysoft's help is worse than any US plan to take down the Chinese government.
For God's sake, didn't anybody contemplate for a second that the CIA's already planted members inside of MS? Hmm, no, because that would make sense then. Uh-DURRR@!
Posted by: adamthemadman at June 14, 2005 09:25 AMIf Microsoft's role is well known in China, then I can imagine the Chinese people boycotting Microsoft. When the Communist regime loses it's chokehold on freedom, Microsoft may find itself being punished.
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Posted by: Mark Poling at June 17, 2005 11:47 AMIf it is totalitarian propaganda to say that Taiwan is part of China, it's totalarian propaganda that the United States has participated in for 25 years. China is not a bunch of good guys and atheletes, but the story is far more complicated than simply "gosh, Taiwan is a great place, rah, rah, rah."
I see that Vanya makes the same point, more effectively.
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