May 05, 2005

Babes of Lebanon!

I’ve received more email asking for a Babes of Lebanon photo gallery than I could even begin to count. And so, by popular demand, here it is!

A few words, though, before we begin. If any of you think only the Christian women of Lebanon walk around without their own portable tents, forget that. It’s isn’t even close to true. My hotel was on the Muslim side of Beirut and I saw almost as many modern-looking women on that side of the city as I saw in the Christian areas. Even Hezbollah doesn’t mandate the veil or the hijab.

Two Hezbollah groupies invited me to have coffee with them downtown. We argued rather passionately about politics, as you can imagine, but they were good sports about it. They gave me a Cuban cigar as I went on my way, but first one of them asked me: “So, whaddaya think of our women, eh?” and elbowed me good-naturedly in the ribs. Lebanon ain’t Saudi.

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Posted by Michael J. Totten at May 5, 2005 10:17 PM
Comments

Very lovely women indeed. The more westernized they are, the hotter they look.

Despite what they say, little bit of cultural imperialism never hurt anybody.

Posted by: spaniard at May 5, 2005 10:24 PM

Fabulous post, Michael! Thank you.

Posted by: Asher Abrams - Dreams Into Lightning at May 5, 2005 11:04 PM

Americans brought democracy, wiskey and sexy.

-Some guy in Iraq

Posted by: Mike at May 5, 2005 11:05 PM

Has representative government somehow been linked to sex appeal? Clearly in Beruit short slogans and hot ladies made their movement TV friendly, but is it just a crass ploy.

Totten, I think the neo-neocon may have a few things to say about your Demo-Babes.

Posted by: Mike at May 5, 2005 11:10 PM

(I've already been spanked for inappropriate comments on the hot babes, but) Michael, these shots are FANTASTIC. I've seen that last beauty before -- I think if there was a combination of a picture and a quote (pro-democracy? pro-Lebanon?) by the subject, there would be even more blog attention to Lebanon, and their Friends page.

Thanks for these great shots.

Posted by: Tom Grey - Liberty Dad at May 6, 2005 04:09 AM

Great post, Michael. I've linked from Publius this morning. (Our compatriot Robert will be very happy once he resurfaces).

Welcome back, and thanks for the great work and the wonderful writing whie you were in Beirut. We read every post and I for one appreciate the tremendous effort.

Posted by: Daniel Berczik at May 6, 2005 04:17 AM

Michael, welcome home, and thanks for all the photos and the reporting. You were missed, though Jeremy and Mary did a fantastic job while you were gone.

Posted by: GMRoper at May 6, 2005 04:58 AM

So much nicer than photos of Michael Moore!

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Posted by: dionis at May 6, 2005 05:17 AM

No wonder the men want the women covered head to toe and oppressed; the men could get way too distracted!

Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 6, 2005 05:41 AM

Ba-YA-abs!

Almost makes me doubt the wisdom of evicting the Syrians.

Almost.

Posted by: Orion at May 6, 2005 05:43 AM

Lebanon ain’t Saudi.

Well, yeah. But a few problems with the hot-chicks-in-jeans=good, abaya=bad equation. This is more in response to spaniard's asinine comment, but I hope your trip to Lebanon hasn't caused you to buy into the LGF view of Muslims.

I've lived in Bahrain for about a year now, and traveled throughout the Gulf. Even in relatively tolerant Bahrain, it's about a 50-50 split among Arab women (the ex-pats, of course dress pretty scantily). One should keep in mind that, even in Saudi, this social regression is a relatively recent phenomenon, and it can certainly be linked to Islamist politics.

But that is not an absolute. I've met quite a few socially conservative Muslims here and elsewhere who were NOT rabid anti-American, anti-Jewish jihadi sympathizers. In fact, some of them are among the friendliest people I've met.

Conversely, I've also met some very Westernized (even Christian) people who would rejoice at our demise. So let's not try and pick our friends in the region based on their dress code.

We shouldn't try to define observant, or even conservative Muslims as our enemies. Most of them do not approve of al qaeda, even though a lot of them are suspicious of our motives, and yes, harbor a lot of ill will toward Israel (which can largely be attributed to the disinformation and hysteria in the press here -- which goes back to the very secular Arab nationalism of men like Nasser BTW -- rather than some innate anti-Semitism in Islam).

As an example, take a look at this guys's blog. Definitely not an Islamist, but you'll find some of the ugliest anti-Israeli rhetoric (which crosses the line to anti-Semitism), as well as pro-Iraqi "resistance" sentiment. This is typical here, and certainly reminds me that this war is ideological, rather than religious.

Posted by: Bill Herbert at May 6, 2005 05:50 AM

"We shouldn't try to define observant, or even conservative Muslims as our enemies. Most of them do not approve of al qaeda, even though a lot of them are suspicious of our motives"

Whatever, dude. You assert this on the basis of...?

Posted by: JB at May 6, 2005 06:09 AM

No wonder the Cedar Revolution was a success! We look forward to more such excellent reporting on the next democratic front... I've linked to this post from my blog: JamulBlog

Posted by: Tom Dilatush at May 6, 2005 06:19 AM

From the little I've seen of Saudi women, they probably wear Burqas because they are nowhere near as good looking as Lebanese women. But to be fair this is one area where America also suffers by comparison.

Posted by: Vanya at May 6, 2005 06:35 AM

Politcs played on women's bodies, so what else is new...
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Why, why, did you have to do this??

Posted by: Tara at May 6, 2005 06:45 AM

Politcs played on women's bodies, so what else is new...

Why, why, did you have to do this??

Posted by: Tara at May 6, 2005 06:45 AM

This is more in response to spaniard's asinine comment, but I hope your trip to Lebanon hasn't caused you to buy into the LGF view of Muslims.

Bill,

There was nothing asinine about my comment. If it's cool and hip for the West to embrace foreign and diverse cultures, then the East can embrace some of ours. It's called womyn's Liberalization, buddy.

Oh, but silly me. I see the difference now-- , Western culture bad, Eastern culture good. Of course! [slaps himself on the head]

The little brown folks must be protected from the depredations of Whitey. That's your calling as a Lib-- to treat the little brown folks like children, or an endangered species.

Definitely not an Islamist, but you'll find some of the ugliest anti-Israeli rhetoric (which crosses the line to anti-Semitism), as well as pro-Iraqi "resistance" sentiment.

that's easy. He's an Arab, and a Leftist. Arab radio and nationalism don't cause anti-semitism, they APPEAL to innate Arab anti-semitism. And some would argue it's religious.

Posted by: spaniard at May 6, 2005 06:47 AM

Thanks for the lovely photos.
The problem with many fanatical muslims that makes them so willing to kill innocents for god is not something you can necessarily see on the outside. A religious mass murderer may be very beautiful on the outside. Unfortunately the violent minded imams have made their insides fecal.

Posted by: Buttress at May 6, 2005 06:57 AM

OUTSTANDING!!! Keep up the good work! It's refreshing to know that in light of all the turmoil and strife in our world, we are reminded of what is most important!

Posted by: Fightin at May 6, 2005 07:19 AM

Glenn posted often on your travails; to which I always retorted to glenn: yeah, but where are the protest babes!??.

Seriously, though...thanks for the babes.

Posted by: john pike at May 6, 2005 07:31 AM

I think that Mike's wife will be with him on his next trip. This trust stuff only goes so far.

Posted by: David Thomson at May 6, 2005 07:49 AM

I'm with you, Spaniard. There's a reason people all over the world don't speak of the fashionable "Saudi way of life."

God bless women!

Posted by: Brian Moore at May 6, 2005 07:52 AM

I'd hit it, haha.

Posted by: Jo at May 6, 2005 08:04 AM

Whatever, dude. You assert this on the basis of ...?

Oh, I don't know, living among them and talking to them? Also reading their newspapers. And what little empirical research there is on public opinion here confirms this.

BT

Spaniard:

Yes, your first commment was quite asinine, and your second even more so. I never said Westernization is bad for anyone. I just objected to your suggestion that Westernized Arab women are better than those who cover themselves.

No, they don't need to be "protected" from Western culture, but neither do they need it to become liberated. What they need is liberalism and democracy, which I've always identified as a universal human need, regardless of which culture came to that realization first.

It's condescending -- and simply inaccurate -- to assume that Muslim women who wear a hijab or abaya do so because they are forced, and should all be pitied as victims. Or that they can't be treated as independent individuals, or that they are brainwashed Islamists. Or, perhaps more importantly, that they aren't beautiful.

And ignorant statements like yours only confirm the suspicions in the minds of many here that the war on terror is really a war against Islam, even though, as someone who's actually helping to fight it, I know that isn't true.

In other words, jackasses like you make my job harder. Please stop.

And Sabbah isn't really a Leftist, either. Nor is there anything "innate" about Arab anti-Semitism, any more than any other form of bigotry is innate.

Like yours, for example.

Posted by: Bill Herbert at May 6, 2005 08:13 AM

Spaniard's comment isn't "asinine." Beauty is of course subjective, and aesthetic judgments are bound up with memories and associations from happier, carefree days from our youth. I would wager that spaniard has, like many of us, very fond memories of time spent with bare-midriffed babes on dance floors and thus equates the club look with, shall we say, bliss.

It works the other way as well. There are westerners who find a thrill in difference, usually described as "exotic." The youthful memories in this case may come from carefree adventures or time spent abroad.

Bottom line: chill out, folks. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder and cannot ever be subjected to political correctness.

In any case, there's been more than enough rancor and devastation on matters middle esatern over the last 10-12 years, so a little fun is to be welcomed. Bring on the dark-eyed ones, or blue-eyed ones, or red-eyed ones, or whatever floats your boat. Nice work, Michael.

Posted by: thibaud at May 6, 2005 08:30 AM

I just objected to your suggestion that Westernized Arab women are better than those who cover themselves.

Bill,

you call me a jackass, and asisine. I guess now I'm supposed to insult you, right? But you prove nothing by insulting me, and it won' silence me.

I said they were hotter, not better. I don't consider any person better than the other person, despite their culture, education, level of intelligence, etc. All men are created equal, and are seen as such in the eyes of God.

But I make no bones about which cultures I consider superior, or which I prefer, and which women I consider hotter and sexier. I don't consider hairy-legged burka-wearing women to be sexy. That's not asisine-- it merely doesn't fit into your narrow Lib pc thought codes. And you know what you can do with your pc thought codes.

Posted by: spaniard at May 6, 2005 08:30 AM

The soul of sweet delight can never be defiled

The lust of the goat is the glory of God

Posted by: william blake at May 6, 2005 08:33 AM

Well said, Spaniard. Cultural preference does not equate to nefarious cultural "prejudice."

The Lebanese women shown here are not only lovely but also strong and dignified. The exact opposite of the hapless souls imprisoned inside of head-to-toe beanbags.

Every culture recognizes that beauty has a dignity of its own. Hatred of beauty is hatred of human excellence.

Posted by: thibaud at May 6, 2005 08:40 AM

Lighten up, Tara. We're men and can't help ourselves. Genetic wiring and all that...

Posted by: Rick at May 6, 2005 08:43 AM

Politcs played on women's bodies, so what else is new...

Tara,

It's using women's beauty, not their "bodies."

I don't see any bikinis or nipples.

Posted by: spaniard at May 6, 2005 08:48 AM

WOW!

Posted by: JJFlash at May 6, 2005 09:14 AM

Beautiful photos Michael- but how does Shelly feel about this?

Posted by: Steve at May 6, 2005 09:17 AM

All I can say is:

Freedom is beautiful

Posted by: TallDave at May 6, 2005 09:24 AM

We should hand these pictures out to the Muslim militants so they can see what their societies might look like if they got rid of all those ugly clothes they make their women wear.

I think they'd drop Islamic fundamentalism real quick.

Posted by: Half Sigma at May 6, 2005 09:26 AM

Bill,

Well, it might now always be forced, but there certainly does seem to be a strong correlation between degree of repression in a country and the degree to which the women are covered.

Posted by: TallDave at May 6, 2005 09:27 AM

*might not

Posted by: TallDave at May 6, 2005 09:27 AM

Uhh, a little off topic but-

In the top photo: What the heck is the blonde gal (with the scorpion tattoo on her shoulder - LONG LIVE HEAVY METAL!!) holding in her left hand? The end of a hooka pipe?

Either way, some true babes here.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 6, 2005 09:29 AM

Bill Herbert,

I have no problem with Muslims. I only have a problem with Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Assad, etc.

Tex Lovera,

Yes, she is holding the end of a hookah pipe.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at May 6, 2005 09:40 AM

You guys are such...guys. Long may you wave.

(PS> Mediterranean men are quite lovely as well. Any chance we'll be seeing a Studs of Lebanon! photo gallery any time soon?)

Posted by: Kyda Sylvester at May 6, 2005 09:47 AM

Yeah, OK, Michael was on a "political" trip! LOL!! And the wife bought that one too.

1) I'll take 1, 2 and the last.
Can I get a fuller picture of #1 for crying out loud? What kind of photographer takes a picture of that partially blocked.

2) The 'myth' that the Phoeneicans were European and are the forefathers of Lebanon, is no myth apparently. Most of these women are far more European looking than Arabic looking.

3) Can a brutha get another picture of Joumanna posted? How many time I gotta ask?

Mike N

Posted by: Mike at May 6, 2005 09:48 AM

Mike N,

The last photo is of Joummana.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at May 6, 2005 09:53 AM

Wait the last one might be Joumanna?
Ok another of her standing up then, maybe?

Posted by: Mike at May 6, 2005 09:53 AM

Posted at same time.

Posted by: Mike at May 6, 2005 09:54 AM

Listen, I got first dibs on next trip to Lebanon.
I'm still single, so toss me a bone.
I'll be the camera carrier, and I'll help make sure that crimes like the partially blocked #1 picture don't occur.

Mike N

Posted by: Mike at May 6, 2005 09:56 AM

A nice fit to the Babe Theory, which may need an update in the coming months.

Posted by: Will Franklin at May 6, 2005 10:01 AM

Well, it might now always be forced, but there certainly does seem to be a strong correlation between degree of repression in a country and the degree to which the women are covered.

Sure about that? What, you think Lebanese women just started dressing like this when the Syrians left?

And if you were to visit Syria, or Iraq under Saddam, you wouldn't find that many hijabs or abayas at all. But you would find two of the three most brutal regimes this region has seen in modern history.

BTW, here are some of those "hapless souls thibaud was talking about. Pity them.

(The first pair of "bean bags" are protesting an internet registration law proposed in Bahrain; their sign says "freedom of speech over anything." The second is a group of Kuwati hijab-wearers, standing with their hair-bearing sisters to demand women's suffrage.)

Posted by: Bill Herbert at May 6, 2005 10:23 AM

I'm with Kyda - where are the Studs of Lebanon?

Otherwise, love the pictures. All I see is a celebration of beauty, happiness and freedom, not exploitation. Right on.

Posted by: DodgerGirl at May 6, 2005 10:27 AM
Spaniard said:
I don't consider hairy-legged burka-wearing women to be sexy.

Hmmm... If the women are covered, as wearing the burka implies, HOW do you know they're hairy-legged?

Good pics, Michael, welcome back.

Posted by: Greg at May 6, 2005 10:34 AM

Hey, sex appeal is a unifier: It helps us break thru the cultural barriers. Anything which lets us identify with the "other" is likely a good thing, if only to help us understand that which we might oppose. I spent the fall of 1975 in Lebanon, when babes et al were shooting people, and I'll tell you, 2005 is a hell of a lot better for them.

Posted by: Wudndux at May 6, 2005 10:37 AM

The faces that launched a million hits.

Posted by: Paul Brinkley at May 6, 2005 10:43 AM

Guys I'm enjoying the a moment of peaceful Karma, can you leave debates about repressive regimes, politics and Middle Eastern anti-semitism out of it for just a sec.

Doddgegirl -
You've heard the song 'Thank heaven for little girls.... they grow up in the most delightful way'?

Michael book my plane ticket with you next time.

Mike N

Posted by: Mike at May 6, 2005 10:50 AM

Hmmm... If the women are covered, as wearing the burka implies, HOW do you know they're hairy-legged?

Greg,

easy. Have you ever worn a caste on your arm or leg?

When it comes off, it's hairy. The darkness does that. Gooogle it, you'll see.

Posted by: spaniard at May 6, 2005 10:53 AM

I live in Dubai, where there are Lebanese women in abundance. More beautiful women are hard to find, but take it from me - they are very very very high maintenance. Ask any Lebanese man.

Posted by: Tim Newman at May 6, 2005 11:18 AM

Beirut has always been a liberal (not Liberal) mecca (not Mecca).

No surprise that there are plenty of babes there.

Posted by: Steve at May 6, 2005 11:18 AM

Cleary Vanya and Spaniard haven't seen enough--or enough of--Saudi women. They're among the most elegant women on earth. You have to get to know them--or know where to find them without their covers. You can try Jeddah, for instance, where many young women don't go with the hijab/veil thing. You can even find them in coffeeshops, smoking their own hookahs. But don't try taking photos of them.

Posted by: John Burgess at May 6, 2005 11:44 AM

easy. Have you ever worn a caste on your arm or leg?

When it comes off, it's hairy. The darkness does that.

Call me crazy, but I thought not shaving did that.

Posted by: Bill Herbert at May 6, 2005 11:52 AM

You have to get to know them--or know where to find them without their covers. You can try Jeddah, for instance ...

Or Bahrain. Seef Mall on a Thursday or Friday night, to be precise.

Posted by: Bill Herbert at May 6, 2005 11:58 AM

Bill,

guys don't shave their arms/legs. But wear a cast, and after 6 weeks you'll see how hairy they get.

Burka-clad women must be hairy beasts.

Posted by: spaniard at May 6, 2005 12:23 PM

NYC Protest Warrior Babes!

Posted by: Yehudit at May 6, 2005 02:00 PM

Need more TNA.

Posted by: Jo at May 6, 2005 02:12 PM

I live in Sydney,which has the biggest Lebanese community in the world outside Lebanon(280,000).While Lebanese women are undoubtedly good looking,it doesnt stop Lebanese males gang raping white girls.(73 incidents in Sydney from 1999-2002) while calling them white pigs.

Lebanese here arent openly anti-semitic either,how could they be when it was the Australian Jewish Council who lobbied for them to be allowed entrance here en masse in the 1980s to add to Sydneys 'wonderful' multicultural mosaic.

It should be added that here we didnt get the urban/coastal Lebanese,we got the ones,both christian and muslim,from the rural areas.Which sometimes makes all the difference in mentality.

Posted by: Tony E at May 6, 2005 02:51 PM
Tim Newman
I live in Dubai, where there are Lebanese women in abundance. More beautiful women are hard to find, but take it from me - they are very very very high maintenance. Ask any Lebanese man.
It would be a pleasure to 'maintain' some of them and listen why should they be that much different than their neighbors to the South? eh? :-)
Clearly Vanya and Spaniard haven't seen enough--or enough of--Saudi women. They're among the most elegant women on earth. You have to get to know them--or know where to find them without their covers.

That sounds like tons of fun hanging out in Saudi Arabia that is. I'll pass on that trip.

Tony E
I live in Sydney, which has the biggest Lebanese community in the world outside Lebanon(280,000). While Lebanese women are undoubtedly good looking,it doesnt stop Lebanese males gang raping white girls.(73 incidents in Sydney from 1999-2002) while calling them white pigs.
Bigger than the US or South American community? Lebanese Christians or fundamentalist Muslims?
They haven't integrated like most have in the US?
Lebanese here arent openly anti-semitic either, how could they be when it was the Australian Jewish Council who lobbied for them to be allowed entrance here en masse in the 1980s to add to Sydneys 'wonderful' multicultural mosaic.
Bro, that wouldn't stop them from being anti-semitic, it might even heighten it. I hear mixed reviews on sentiments in Lebanon, probably because its such a diverse country, as Michael recounted.

Israeli doctors treat Arab kids from Ramallah with childhood diseases. The mothers curse the "jew doctor" in Arabic as they go to lengths to save their kids life.

The ACLU and ADL sometimes work hand in hand with CAIR, you know what CAIR is.

And if you think sticking up for anyone has ever gotten the Jewish community any credit, well....

It should be added that here we didnt get the urban/coastal Lebanese,we got the ones,both christian and muslim,from the rural areas.Which sometimes makes all the difference in mentality.
That could be? Posted by: Mike Nargizian at May 6, 2005 03:50 PM

FYI,

I didn't detect any anti-Semitism in Lebanon. Not saying it doesn't exist, I just didn't encounter it. All the criticisms I heard of Israel were reasonable and rooted in reality, not hate or paranoid fantasy. Most of the Lebanese I talked to about Israel are tired of the perpetual state of conflict and want to move on. Hezbollah is the only group that wants to keep it going, and that's mostly so they can justify their existence as a militia.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at May 6, 2005 04:15 PM

Cool. I'm down for the next trip. :-)

Posted by: Mike at May 6, 2005 04:59 PM

Bill,

Well, Lebanon didn't instantly become less repressed than Saudi Arabia when the Syrians left either. They've always been relatively free.

Posted by: TallDave at May 6, 2005 05:31 PM

And of course there are different kinds of repression, and not all carried out by gov'ts. In some ways Syrians are more free than Saadis (at least the women). From what I've read, it's a lot easier in Saudi Arabia for a man to take his wife/sister/daughter out in the desert and bury her alive if she does something they don't like. Even in Saddamist Iraq or Baathist Syria that stands a good chance of getting you arrested.

Posted by: TallDave at May 6, 2005 05:38 PM

Looks like Lebanon's finally caught up with the fashions of the eighties.

Posted by: Flashman at May 6, 2005 07:01 PM

Flashman,

They were shooting holes in each other during the 80s. But they didn't want to miss out, so they're making up for it now.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at May 6, 2005 07:46 PM

MJT: "I didn't detect any anti-Semitism in Lebanon. Not saying it doesn't exist, I just didn't encounter it."

Interesting - this was in frontpagemag today - from a Lebanese woman -

Environments of hate

(Truth is obviously a tough thing to get at.)

I confess to one curiosity about this Lebanon-babe topic. Is Joumanna aware of her new international acclaim? I assume she became somwhat aware of it after the first SOA pics? If so - do you have any idea of her reaction to it (assuming you saw her again after your first pics appeared on the internet)?

Posted by: at May 6, 2005 07:56 PM

Oh - sorry Michael - 7:56 was me.

Posted by: Caroline at May 6, 2005 07:58 PM

Totten, I have to ask, did you ask permission to take these pictures or were you just wandering around Lebanon taking pictures of hot women?

Either way I would feel a bit uncomfortable,(<-would that be an appropriate place for a semi-colon?) snapping shots of random women jogging, or asking random women if I could take their picture because my internet viewers thought Lebanese women are hot. I would love to hear how you went about this photographic expidition.

Posted by: Mike at May 6, 2005 08:30 PM

think not thought

Posted by: Mike at May 6, 2005 08:32 PM

Bill Herbert:
You refer to the uncovered women as "hair-bearing".

Would that be like "fur bearing"?
As in "bears"? This is surely contrary to your own thesis, which would suggest the darkened skin of the burkettes would be hairier.

But of course they aren't baring how much hair they bear. I guess they just can't bear being bare?

Posted by: Brian H at May 6, 2005 09:42 PM

Caroline,

Lebanon is a different country now than it was when Brigitte Gabriel went to school there. Very different.

Heck, it's a different country now than it was two months ago.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at May 6, 2005 11:19 PM

FIRST -
I don't see any 80's about anything they're wearing? No Z Cavvs, feathered hair, tube socks over their jeans, ripped Ozzy Ozbourne shirts? Unless you know that Fast Times at Ridgemont just hit the movie theatres there or 99 Luft balloons is a big hit at the Beirut Discoteque - there's nothing 80's about those chicks. Those chicks are dressing virtually the same as American girls are today.

SECOND - I know Brigitte pretty wel and was at that speech/event at Columbia. I've spoken to her many times about Lebanon, she doesn't have many happy stories to recount from about the age of 9 on.

THIRD - Caroline had an extremely important Part II question in her post which you didn't answer Michael.
I confess to one curiosity about this Lebanon-babe topic. Is Joumanna aware of her new international acclaim? I assume she became somwhat aware of it after the first SOA pics? If so - do you have any idea of her reaction to it (assuming you saw her again after your first pics appeared on the internet)?
YOU KNOW I CONFESS TO A CURIOSITY TOO, NO CHECK THAT, I CONFESS TO A HUGE CURIOSITY.
SO WHAT'S UP TOTTEN? CAN YOU THROW ME A CRUMB? Details...... details my friend.

Mike Nargizian

PS You can email them to me if you prefer ;-)

Posted by: Mike N at May 7, 2005 12:02 AM

Yes, Joumanna knows she is popular for being cute. She is both flattered and embarassed by this.

She is an extremely intelligent person and would rather be known for what's in her head.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at May 7, 2005 12:56 AM

Joumanna's brain is beautiful too. Every movement needs its charismatic leaders...

Posted by: Undertoad at May 7, 2005 04:08 AM

hate to say it,
but you guys really need to get out more ...

Posted by: novakant at May 7, 2005 07:04 AM
Joumanna's brain is beautiful too. Every movement needs its charismatic leaders...
LOL......................

Btw, that's the vibe I got from her pic, a cute intelligent type. Now any pics of her wearing glasses? :-)...

Mike N

Posted by: Mike at May 7, 2005 07:57 AM

the women are lovely. The beauty of the landscape is a surprise, but it is also refreshing to see the women able to express their feminity freely and openly.

Posted by: Gena Pegg at May 7, 2005 12:21 PM

I have a massive schoolboy crush on Joumanna Nasr, both for looks and smarts and heart.

I've said this several times on my blog, but I'll say it again here: you rule, Mr. Totten.

mike

Posted by: marchand chronicles at May 9, 2005 11:18 AM

Like wow, these women have, like, BOOBS and all, y'know, and that's RILLY COOL, like. And some of them are SMILIN' like. Maybe at ME, even!

Posted by: typical Totten reader at May 9, 2005 01:01 PM

To Mr. "Typical Totten Reader,"

Are you a fundamentalist Christian, or are you a humorless leftist who thinks sex=rape?

Get out. Get laid. Live life. And try not to flail and thrash around so much in people's comments sections. It's undignified.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at May 9, 2005 05:21 PM

Yes. DITTOS!! I've been Jerking off like a maniac since i discovered "The babes of Lebannon" I'm sharing the link with all the guys I sit up late chatting with. I bet those "babes" are just hot for some real US OF A beefcake!!! They're pratically Americans already.

BTW Bush is THE MAN

Posted by: marc at May 10, 2005 08:39 PM

It took a long time to get to the end of these comments. My own opinion is we should kill all the ragheads we can, and then the world will be safer. There is no such thing as coexisting with muslims. Remember that 25 years from now in your dhimmitude.

And the Lebanese babes really ARE hot!

Posted by: JC at May 11, 2005 03:24 AM

JC, when I read your remarks, I wasn't sure whether they were sincere, or a parody of a right-wing bigot. I visited your blog and you came across as a very sincere and loving Christian.

I'm still not 100% sure, but I think your remarks here at MJT are sincere, and I don't see how you reconcile them with your obvious deep Christian faith.

Remember, we're called to love our enemies. Try it. It'll drive 'em crazy.

And blessed are the peacemakers (and I don't mean the B-36) for they shall never be unemployed.

Posted by: vinoVeritas at May 11, 2005 06:22 AM

JC is banned.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at May 11, 2005 03:23 PM

Apparently the women in some parts of Turkey are now westernized as well, according to a Turkish friend of mine who can't stand them now because of it.

Posted by: JG22 at May 11, 2005 08:58 PM

"JC is banned."

Not marc?

"Yes. DITTOS!! I've been Jerking off like a
maniac since i discovered "The babes of
Lebannon" I'm sharing the link with all the
guys I sit up late chatting with. I bet
those "babes" are just hot for some real US
OF A beefcake!!! They're pratically
Americans already.

BTW Bush is THE MAN"

Posted by: GregW at May 11, 2005 11:17 PM

Greg : I cant speak for M. Totten, I dont know him. I suspect that JC was banned for the racist slur he made followed by the psychotic incitement to blow people up...read the post. Your confussion goes straight to the issue of sex with right wingers. No amount of bombing is bad, racist invective and hatemongering just fine,but throw in some lewd off color sexual remark and they go through the roof. Dosn't even matter what context it was made in (puts some pants on that naked statue!!)...get a grip greg (no pun intended)

Posted by: marc at May 12, 2005 06:20 AM

He banned me, then I apologized for the remark. Well, he refuses to accept my apology, so who's the bad guy now. I was sincere, as that's not language I usually use. I was up all night on the net, and tired. Sorry. But MT refuses to accept apologies? Thought so.

Posted by: Joe Comer at May 12, 2005 03:53 PM

I forgot to mention: the girls really are good-looking, but I'm too old to care. But a 41-year marriage doesn't dim the eye to beauty! Nice pictures.

Posted by: Joe Comer at May 12, 2005 03:58 PM

Joe, it's Michael's site. Michael makes the rules.

But I forgive you. We all use our mouth without engaging our brain sometimes.

Posted by: VinoVeritas at May 12, 2005 05:11 PM

Thanks, Vino. I sent him several emails, had to use my AOL account to get back in here. He has the ability to go to Beirut, I can hardly get down the block. The parts of the world I've seen, Vietnam, Korea, and Thailand, for hyears at a time, mixed in with Iraq, don't make me easy to get along with sometimes. Add to that, I'm old and cranky. Yes, I do love the Lord and I try to love people, but sometimes I just lose it, especially since Iraq. It's hard to trust Arabs, and since 9/11, I'm even harder to gat along with. So I end sentences wrong as well. Sorry again.

Posted by: Joe Comer at May 12, 2005 07:04 PM

Well, well, made it through. Surprise, surprise.

Posted by: Joe Comer at May 12, 2005 07:06 PM

Bill Herbert, your comment was a good one, but I wish you hadn't given the link to "this guy's blog." Or at least you should have named the link - Sabbah's Blog - so I wouldn't click on the link. I had decided long ago NEVER to read this guy's blog again or give him my traffic to add to his stats. I think all links should be identified by name so people who want to read the site can, and those who want to avoid it can also, IMO.

Posted by: Laura at May 14, 2005 11:08 AM
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