November 28, 2004

Bush's South America Security Detail

Posted by Jeremy Brown

There is a report today that would seem to vindicate the unapologetic emphasis on keeping presidential security in the hands of the Secret Service during Bush's trip to South America (despite some friction and accusations of arrogance). In Colombia for instance:

Security was extraordinarily heavy in Cartagena as Mr. Bush arrived, prompting one prominent Colombian columnist to remark on what he called American paranoia. Military helicopters bristling with armaments flew over the old walled city, which is nearly 500 years old. The bay was used only by naval and other military boats, including rubber crafts used by American commandos. Mr. Bush used an armored S.U.V., instead of a limousine.

...which seems pretty over the top, considered outside of the contextual framework of this:

BOGOTÁ, Colombia, Nov. 27 - Marxist rebels had planned to assassinate President Bush last Monday during his four-hour stopover in Colombia to meet President Álvaro Uribe, Defense Minister Jorge Alberto Uribe said Saturday, without offering details or proof. "According to informants and various sources, we had information indicating that various members of FARC had been instructed by their leaders to make an attempt against President Bush," the minister told reporters, referring to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia rebel group by its Spanish acronym.

The White House and the Secret Service declined to comment. Jonathan Cherry, a Secret Service spokesman, said, "We do not discuss any alleged threats to our protectees."
Posted by Jeremy Brown at November 28, 2004 11:27 AM
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Um, don't you think it's possible that the Colombian government had a pretty strong incentive to exaggerate, if not fabricate, a threat from the Marxists towards the U.S.?

Just follow the money.

I'm not saying that it's impossible that it's true, but I suspect it's pretty unlikely that the Marxists ever thought that they had a chance of knocking of Bush. And the background tells you that you would have to be credulous in the extreme to take the word of the government at face value.

Posted by: Mork at November 28, 2004 03:36 PM

Ouch that is some pretty crazy stuff!

Posted by: Llew Roberts at November 28, 2004 07:11 PM

"I suspect it's pretty unlikely that the Marxists ever thought that they had a chance of knocking of Bush."

They're Marxists, hence, they're already morons. I'm sure that some of them entertained the possibility of success.

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Posted by: Ratatosk at November 29, 2004 07:49 AM

Bush Lied.

Posted by: All You Need To Know at November 29, 2004 08:40 AM

maybe Bush was just wrong. There's a difference you know.

Posted by: David at November 29, 2004 10:01 AM

By that argument Clinton Lied... ok... well the French Lied too. And so did Kerry when he thought Saddam had WMDs.

Feeding lame trolls is sooo boring on a monday.

As for the threat from FARC not being all that credible in the areas traveled by Bush (and gazillions of tourists), best be safe than sorry.

Posted by: Bill at November 29, 2004 10:23 AM

As much antipathy as I have toward Bush, bear in my mind it is the Colombian government making this claim and it is the Colombian government that I think is wrong here: wrong for making a claim public and wrong for citing such a claim without providing any support for it.

Posted by: Randy Paul at November 29, 2004 10:57 AM

I am sorry to disappoint everyone but I heard a different story. The Colombians were quite happy with Bush, the helicopters and the rest, particularly with the Secret Service looking after him. The shoving and pushing with the locals was in Chile (the very long and thin country in South America. The Chileans were in this case a pain in the neck, to the point that, minutes before the Farewell Banquet, Bush himself had to rescue one of his bodyguards that had been prevented by the Chilean S S to follow him into the dining room.

Posted by: E. Larcade at November 29, 2004 04:13 PM

I am sorry to disappoint everyone but I heard a different story. The Colombians were quite happy with Bush, the helicopters and the rest, particularly with the Secret Service looking after him. The shoving and pushing with the locals was in Chile (the very long and thin country in South America). The Chileans were in this case a pain in the neck, to the point that, minutes before the Farewell Banquet, Bush himself had to rescue one of his bodyguards that had been prevented by the locals to follow him into the dining room.

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Posted by: Ratatosk at November 30, 2004 06:57 AM

Well, there not adept at it (in this case anyway), but they do it.

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