Michael J. Totten: Arafat Officially Dead

November 10, 2004

Arafat Officially Dead

It looks like Yasser Arafat is finally - officially - dead.

RAMALLAH, West Bank - Yasser Arafat, who triumphantly forced his people's plight into the world spotlight but failed to achieve his lifelong quest for Palestinian statehood, died Thursday at age 75. He was to the end a man of many mysteries and paradoxes — terrorist, statesman, autocrat and peacemaker. Palestinian Cabinet minister Saeb Erekat confirmed to The Associated Press that Arafat had died. The Palestinian leader spent his final days in a coma at a French military hospital outside Paris.

May the Palestinians find a leader who loves his people more than he hates his enemies.

UPDATE: Jacques Chirac is sad.

Posted by Michael J. Totten at November 10, 2004 08:19 PM

Comments

I just wish he died last week. That would have been a wonderful week: 1) Bush wins. 2) Arafat dies.

BTW I went to CNN, and I was disgusted with Arafat's picture over there. It looked like as if this turd was a great man.

Vilmos

Posted by: Vilmos Soti at November 10, 2004 08:25 PM

Arafat died tonight. Wouldn't it be wonderful if Palestinian terrorism died with him?

Can't the Palestinians, and all of the Islamofascist terrorists, see that their intifadas and terrorist attacks are backfiring on them? Israel is not going to go away. The U.S. is not going to be overthrown.

It is time for a new leader to rise up in Palestine and establish a state of Palestine that chooses to coexist with Israel.

I am so glad that Bush chose to ignore Arafat's stupid, deceitful games over the last four years. Arafat dies a collosal failure. His last intifada failed, he failed, the world is better for his failures. May God rest his wounded soul.

Posted by: thedragonflies at November 10, 2004 08:31 PM

To paraphrase Golda Mier: There will be peace when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate the Jews.

Posted by: Brooks at November 10, 2004 08:43 PM

When I heard the news that Arafat was very sick and was about to be flown to Paris, I hoped that he would die. And I was pondering that how come that I wish somebody's death? I am not like that. It was really hard to reconcile my thoughts. But I concluded that Arafat was such an enormously bad man that I was justified in wishing his death. He killed a lot of Israelis. He killed a lot of Palestinians. He killed a lot of others. He was the biggest obstacle for peace in the Holy Land. He was the biggest enemy of the Palestinians. He kept them hostage for his own vanity. I am sure that with time the Arabs in general and the Palestinians in particular will treat him with contempt which he richly deserves.

I still wish him RIP. I am just happy that he is out of this world.

Vilmos

Posted by: Vilmos Soti at November 10, 2004 08:51 PM

May G-d have mercy on his soul, despite the lack of mercy he showed others in life.

Posted by: FH at November 10, 2004 08:59 PM

Let the bloodbath begin.

Posted by: David in Jesusland at November 10, 2004 09:00 PM

To: David in Jesusland

> Let the bloodbath begin.

I am sad to say this, but I agree with David. This might solve the Palestinians' problem because nothing else (certainly not Arafat) solved it for almost sixty years. I just hope that the good guys (is there such there?) will win.

Vilmos

Posted by: Vilmos Soti at November 10, 2004 09:16 PM

Now that Terrorafat has gone to his just reward, lets hope the Palestinians can find a leader who will demonstrate that they are mature enough to join the international community and thus worthy of statehood.

I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: freeguy at November 10, 2004 09:18 PM

Arafat's legacy is a would-be nation that thinks the death of Jews is the only answer to their own problems. Just a few days ago, more than half the palestinians polled said they thought attacks on Israel should continue from Gaza even after Israel withdraws.

Arafat is responsible for the death of more Jews than any man since Hitler, directly, indirectly, and by example and inspiration.

If I believed in hell, I'd say: May he rot in hell.

I'll settle for: May he rot in the ground and do us no more harm.

Posted by: Meryl Yourish at November 10, 2004 09:20 PM

Arafat was a terrorist responsible for the deaths of Americans. May he rot in hell.

This is the moment for Palestine. A civil war is necessary to rid that people of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other terrorist organizations. Grasp your future Palestinians.

We should support the moderates in that war with money.

My condolences to his family and the Palestinian people, but I'd gladly p**s on his grave.

Posted by: spc67 at November 10, 2004 09:53 PM

Just a few days ago, more than half the palestinians polled said they thought attacks on Israel should continue from Gaza even after Israel withdraws

And just a few days ago, more than half of Americans voted to keep bombing the crap out of Iraq even after Sadaam Hussein had been withdrawn from power.

Difference?

Posted by: Goldwater at November 10, 2004 10:24 PM

I have to agree with SPC on this one...

This is the window of opportunity, really, and probably the only one this generation of Palestinians will see. I would absolutely love to see Bush speak up on this, maybe in like a prime-time address to the Palestinian people, on national television broadcast around the world. And, yes, a necessary part of that would have to entail giving as much support to the moderates (the ones who would actually accept a two-state solution) as we possibly can. I've been pleasantly surprised over and over again by Ariel Sharon. I'd love to be surprised by the Palestinian Authority.

I don't know if any of you watch the West Wing or not, but art may indeed reflect life very very soon. It's time to start trying to negotiate a peace, again.

Posted by: Grant McEntire at November 10, 2004 10:41 PM

PS...

My girlfriend in Cairo is one lucky son of a bitch, right now. The official funeral service is going to be held in Egypt, probably on Friday.

Posted by: Grant McEntire at November 10, 2004 10:43 PM

“And just a few days ago, more than half of Americans voted to keep bombing the crap out of Iraq even after Sadaam Hussein had been withdrawn from power.

Difference?”

Thank God that John Kerry lost the election. You represent the thinking of a large number of his supporters. The United States never directly targets innocent civilians. Yasser Arafat and and the Palestinian nihilists do. End of story. That makes all the difference in the world.

Posted by: David Thomson at November 10, 2004 10:48 PM

"bombing the crap out of Iraq..."

Odd, that's not the impression that I got from the reports coming out of Fallujah and Ramadi. Seems like the bombing is rather precise and limited, eh what? http://belmontclub.blogspot.com

Posted by: A Recovering Liberal at November 10, 2004 10:52 PM

May the (almost inevitable) civil war be short, and may the genuine moderates win. May Arafat rot in the ninth circle of hell. May his "state funeral" be unattended, except for the inevitable local despots. And may this vile terrorist's death present a real opportunity for genuine peace, democracy, and prosperity for the palestinian people.

Posted by: Michael at November 10, 2004 11:08 PM

The United States never directly targets innocent civilians

Never targets, or never admits? Since this administration is ignoring the Geneva convention rules about reporting estimated casualties, how do you know? Because you didn't see it on the news? Maybe it's the same clairvoyance you use to deduce that I am a Kerry supporter. Wrong, but that doesn't stop you from typing your delusions.

Same for you "recovering liberal"...Yup, move along, precision bombing here. Only top "terrorists" dead here. I'm sure the names and proof of hundreds of dead "terrorists" will be released shortly. Ooooh, my local shills are just reporting that Zarqawi may not be in Fallujah...what a surprise. How ever did he get out since it's been sealed up for weeks? Guess they'll have to attack Mosul...

Posted by: Goldwater at November 10, 2004 11:12 PM

“Maybe it's the same clairvoyance you use to deduce that I am a Kerry supporter. Wrong, but that doesn't stop you from typing your delusions.”

I never said that you were a per se supporter of John Kerry, but merely your thoughts represent many of these people. There’s little that I can add if you fail to grasp the ethical distinctions between direct and indirect actions. The disturbing possibility is that a Kerry victory would have allowed folks like yourself a larger role in deciding our foreign policy. That would have been disastrous. Thankfully, you are a marginalized individual in the Bush era.

Posted by: David Thomson at November 10, 2004 11:31 PM

Anybody catch the FIRST CNN graphic? It was all muted tones and soft edges and curly font, like for Fay Wray. An hour later, an unadorned, more serious photo was used.

Posted by: Cridland at November 10, 2004 11:49 PM

Michael, you caught it nicely; hope the Palis find a leader who loves his people -- in results.

I, too, hope for the blossoming of a democratic free-press state of Palestine, on the rotting and rotten corpse of Arafat's terror support.

I wish Sharon luck, and have advice. Remind the Euro (weenies) folk that the Palis do NOT have a free press, nor democracy. And should. Any bloodshed in power struggles is because of Euro support for Arafat's election-for-life, and suppression of freedom.

Posted by: Tom Grey - Liberty Dad at November 11, 2004 01:51 AM

Goldwater,

Yes, the US is still bombing parts of Iraq. Why? Because they can? Because it makes them feel good? I'd love to read your take on this, because I thought it was due to the fact there are foreign jihadists and other kinds of fascists doing their utmost to turn Iraq into a theocratic/totalitarian nightmare like Afghanistan was under the Taliban, or like the country was under Saddam.
If these people weren't slaying Iraqis and Coalition soldiers, and doing their utmost to disrupt the upcoming election, the US wouldn't be put in the position of having to attack a whole city, thus killing and injuring the civilians the jihadists etc. are using as human shields.
And please don't say the US is blowing things up because destruction is followed by reconstruction, and the US will get paid squillions to do it. Not if you want to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Fish at November 11, 2004 02:51 AM

Guess that's all part of the neocon revolutionary war:

Creative destruction is our middle name.

Posted by: novakant at November 11, 2004 03:07 AM

Wanna bet on which Arabs are happier in a year?
Euro supported Palestinians. Or US supported Iraqis?

um, I'd bet on Iraqis.

Posted by: Tom Grey - Liberty Dad at November 11, 2004 03:14 AM

Haaa!

It's only been a little over a week since I:

-Voted for Kerry.
-Watched the Results Pour In.
-And was Deeply Depressed at the Thought of Four More Years of Bush.

Yet, here I am starting to say myself, "Yeah, with Arafat's death and everything that's happening in Fallujah, I'm kind of glad Bush is in the White House right now to deal with those sort of things instead of Kerry." Maybe I'll inevitably end up regretting my vote against the man. Who knows? I never really had a hard-on for either one of them and my vote doesn't count for shit in Indiana, anyway.

Still, could we maybe separate out foreign and domestic affairs and hand the latter over to the Democrats? Pleeeeease? It would make me really happy.

Posted by: Grant McEntire at November 11, 2004 04:06 AM

Let's talk about the millions looted by Arafat while the Palistinians starved...

Posted by: KR at November 11, 2004 05:36 AM

Typo: I meant BILLIONS of $$$ stolen.

Posted by: KR at November 11, 2004 05:54 AM

My girlfriend in Cairo is one lucky son of a bitch, right now.

I can think of one or two things I'd rather be doing than attending Arafat's funeral.

Posted by: David at November 11, 2004 06:24 AM

Because you didn't see it on the news?

Goldwater,

you're right, I didn't see on the news. Where did you see it? Or do you expect people outside your Lefty echo chamber to accept your delusions in lieu of the facts simply because YOU feel that way? Put up or shut.

Posted by: David at November 11, 2004 06:30 AM

The only reason I hope that Arafat rests in peace is because his evil soul has already done enough damage in this world.

May he be remembered only to be reviled.

Posted by: Mark Poling at November 11, 2004 06:37 AM

David,
"I can think of one or two things I'd rather be doing than attending Arafat's funeral"

Why, I thought you wanted to see the guy dead?

Posted by: sam at November 11, 2004 06:37 AM

Why do I have David Lee Roth's version of "Dancing in the Streets" going through my head right now?

Posted by: Mark Poling at November 11, 2004 06:43 AM

Sam, on second thought...

Posted by: David at November 11, 2004 06:45 AM

My dear friends,

While being horribly tortured and hanging from jagged spikes, Jesus said of his torturers, "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do."

The wages sin pays, is death and in that death a lifetime of sin is paid for. That is the teaching of the Bible. Arafat has paid his tab, closed the bar and passed out on the lawn of eternity, and drowned in his own etheric vomit.

Shall we piss on his grave, or regret that the world we live in has become so divided that someone could act with impunity in such a horrific fashion, for decades?

Perhaps reincarnation is true, if so Arafat will return to Earth in a fitting form. If a God truly was backing him, then he will return a great man. If he was indeed the despot we believe him to be, then he will return as an incarnation of Kenny on South Park. (Then maybe he'll get upgraded to a cockroach.) More ironicly, perhaps he'll be reincarnated as a Palistinian and his parents will strap a bomb to him, in memory of their dear departed leader.

May he rest in peace, burn in hell, come back as a stinkhead fish or simply decay into the basic components of the Universe, to be recycled a thousand times. Whatever the Great Ones have determined for him, barring the existence of any great ones... well the worms will decide.

Rev. D Clyde Williamson
Universal Life Church

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Posted by: Vanya at November 11, 2004 07:08 AM

Shall we piss on his grave, or regret that the world we live in has become so divided that someone could act with impunity in such a horrific fashion, for decades?

Well, both, of course.

Posted by: spc67 at November 11, 2004 08:17 AM

Well said Michael. What a shame Rabin and Arafat couldn't have switched the days on which they died. Arafat was a general who didn't know when to stop fighting -and the result was disaster for his people in 2000 when he spit on the first serious settlement offer that the Israelis had ever made to the Palestinians. (But read Safire's column from yesterday: most Israelis in the promised referendum probably would have voted against the Camp David agreement as well. They and their American supporters - a few of which no doubt are reading this - are part of the problem too, and ironically it was Arafat's actions that year that let them off the hook.)

The ability of Israel and the Palestinian Authority to compromise on the site of his burial is a hopeful sign. The reemergence of Abbas is also encouraging, as is Sharon's continued courage in standing up to the many national chauvanists in his own party and governing coalition.

Palestinians need to realize that their future really is in their hands, and that if a moderate, non-corrupt leadership can do a half decent job running Gaza after Israel pulls out, while keeping terrorism at the same low level that it is at right now, then a settlement along the lines of Camp David is back on the table.

Here's hoping Bush REALLY wants to get back at the America haters and those who see him only as a theocratic warmonger -- by forcing them to shut up and even offer some grudging praise when he helps to forge a fair, realistic peace. Doing this will require him to spend A LOT of political capital.

Posted by: Markus rose at November 11, 2004 09:23 AM

I am glad the chief swine is dead,but his conclusion will not lead to peace.He was,I feel, both the cause, and the mere representative of a decayed culture.I am happy to be corrected by the more knowlegeable but I don't think that there is a real Palestinian society in any meaningful sense of the word.Simply a thugocracy.
Rule by brutes seems to be the natural order of events there, and hostility to Israel substitutes for anything else.
The real impetus to 'peace'in that hellhole is the WALL and absolute force, and only the wall and absolute force.My guess is that the assorted vermin will come out from under their particular rocks and kill each other off in order to be dictator of the cesspool.
Until the Palestinians 'get a clue',nothing will change,nor should it.No new terror states in the ME and that is all the Palestinians can create at this juncture.The power will flow to Hamas,Islamic Jihad,and the other monsters.More death;more destruction;more hopelessness.
Good riddance to bad rubbish as far as Arafat is concerned but it won't lead to peace.

Posted by: dougf at November 11, 2004 09:42 AM

If these people weren't slaying Iraqis and Coalition soldiers, and doing their utmost to disrupt the upcoming election, the US wouldn't be put in the position of having to attack a whole city, thus killing and injuring the civilians the jihadists etc. are using as human shields.

Wow, don't forget the "rape rooms", or is that "torture chambers complete with compact discs" now? Please let me know what the wingnut moral outrage of the month is so I can get on board.

According to the US, all males are jihadists and must stay behind to be precision bombed - so they are just going to bomb the crap out of the country until they can get a decent electorate? That's democracy? Sounds a lot like the thinking of a recently deceased leader I've heard of...

Posted by: Goldwater at November 11, 2004 09:44 AM

>>>"most Israelis in the promised referendum probably would have voted against the Camp David agreement as well."

Markus,

unless there was going to be a referendum, this strikes me as somewhat irrelevant. Barak and the dominant Labor party were calling the shots and would have signed on the dotted line. Correct me if I'm wrong. Therefore, but for Arafat, the paleos would have a state right now, and the negotiations would be about water rights, border crossings, etc., not statehood and borders.

Posted by: David at November 11, 2004 10:25 AM

According to the US, all males are jihadists and must stay behind to be precision bombed

Goldwater,

not only are you emotionally unhinged, but you're a liar and a propagandist. Many combat-aged Falujan males voluntarily turned themselves in to the U.S. military rather than stay behind and fight, and they aren't getting bombed or killed or tortured or whatever insanity you care to pull straight out of your ass.

Posted by: David at November 11, 2004 10:30 AM

This morning's San Jose Mercury News had a nice juxtaposition of headlines. The big headline was, of course,

ARAFAT DEAD

The headline on the article below was,

MAKING WORLD A BETTER PLACE

I think that sums it up nicely.
(Photo here.) Posted by: Eric Wilner at November 11, 2004 12:22 PM

The NY Post had the Best Headline: "Arafat Dead-He Won't Be Missed."

Arafat was not a general. He was a criminal. A mass murderer and a vicious unreconstructed terrorist as well as a thief. He not only terrorized innocent people around the world but his own people especially any that dared question his fascistic rule. Bringing him back from exile has turned out to be a catastrophic mistake. The right leadership might have prepared the Palestinians for compromise. He prepared them for a fight to the death. An entire generation has grown up since that handshake and it seems too many of them are now followers of Islamic fanatics and are willing to emolate themselves as long as they take some Jews with them. It will take a long long time to deal with the hate Arafat fostered for his own selfish purposes. The meme floating around is that Arafat was a warrior who just couldn't make the break for a final settlement. Wrong! He is one of the twentieth century's worst criminals. The only difference between him and Hitler or Stalin is scale and the scope of his ambitions. The greatest thing about President Bush is that he supported SHaron in recognizing this.

What now?

There will be a civil war as the various factions Arafat played off against each other vie for power and control. We must hope that one of them actually seeks compromise with Israel rather than its total destruction. It is by no means a given. Yet it is possible that some statesman in PLO disguise has just been waiting for this moment. If he is identified, the U.S. must do everything to support him and oppose Arafat's heirs who will carry on the horror for another generation. The WORST thing that the U.S. could do is to say to Israel, "Now Arafat's gone, time for more concessions." The damage Arafat has done will definitely outlive him. We must give time and distance to let things sort themselves out. It was always an illusion and a particularly stupid one that the U.S. can "impose" peace. No one can "impose" peace. Only the warring sides can agree to peace. Re-engaging the peace process is just shorthand for forcing Israel to capitulate to maximalist Arab demands. If Bush is a true friend of Israel (and I think he is) he will not force the whole game to start again. The Palestinians and their fellow Arabs MUST genuinely demonstrate a willingness to compromise and live in peace. Otherwise, the idea of Israel putting their enemy within footsteps of their population centers is suicide.

As for Arafat, if their is a hell, I imagine him waking up every day, boarding the local bus and being caught in a suicide bombing over and over again FOR ETERNITY!

Posted by: Doug at November 11, 2004 12:43 PM

David -- I gathered that Barak had promised a referendum on any deal from the following passage in yesterday's Safire column:

In a macabre diplomatic sense, [Arafat's] refusal to take "yes" for an answer was a lucky thing for Israel's image: if those huge concessions had later been presented to Israelis in a promised referendum, Jewish voters would surely have turned down the Clinton-brokered deal. Proof of that was in the avalanche that then ousted the desperate Ehud Barak and elected the determined Ariel Sharon.

In that case, world opprobrium would have been aimed at Israelis for their concern about defensible borders rather than at Arafat for revealing his goal of driving out the Jews.

Posted by: Markus Rose at November 11, 2004 12:56 PM

Goldwater,

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Posted by: Fish at November 11, 2004 02:27 PM

In that case, world opprobrium would have been aimed at Israelis for their concern about defensible borders rather than at Arafat for revealing his goal of driving out the Jews.

Markus,

then I stand corrected. It seems unlikely that a negative Israeli vote would have made a difference with world opinion however. As you can see, it's always Israel's fault anyway, never the paleostinians.

Posted by: David at November 11, 2004 02:31 PM

I'm sitting here doing wireless in Denver Airport and CNN's airport network is gushing all over Arafat. Blitzer even had an interview on how serious Arafat was about "peace" and earlier an apologist talked about how he was a such a humanitarian and gave money away never keeping any for himself (of course it all goes to Suha).

It's truly sickening. Do those amoralists have the faintest care that this is the man who probably contributed the most to make hijacking hip, fashioable and "morally defensible".

I just had to move to find a place near a plut and away from a TV.

It's truly sickening. It's bad enough that "diplomatic protocal" has to send an envoy to the funeral of the man who won a Nobel Prize for Killing Jews.

Posted by: Bill at November 11, 2004 02:45 PM

DAVID...

Come on, David! Even if you hate Arafat's guts and see him as nothing more than a terrorist, as I believe the both of us do, why wouldn't you want to be in Cairo for the funeral? I mean, if only for history's sake! I'm insanely jealous of Beth in Egypt right now. She's watching history in the making with a front-row-seat, man. Arafat is hardly the moral equivalent of Kennedy or Lincoln, but he's pretty much on that level over there. Remember where you were at when Kennedy got shot? I bet you do. Remember watching the funeral on television? Imagine how awesome it would have been to of been there. That's what I'm talking about.

Posted by: Grant McEntire at November 11, 2004 03:34 PM

Grant,

even as a historical character, I don't place any kind of real importance in Arafat. The only importance he has is that which is given to him by people I have no respect for -- Arabs, Europeans, and moonbats. And I think I'm looking at it objectively -- I don't even hate him that much. His primary accomplishment has been notoriety. That's it, nothing else. His other accomplishments have been murder, and running his people into the ground. I just don't see how he's memorable beyond just being nototious. Seriously, those crowds are going to be sweaty, smelly, and very possibly dangerous. Is any of that worth it just to see a celebrity get buried? Not for me.

And FYI, the cow Suha is going to be receiving 20,000,000 per year according to the Jerusalem Post. Other people's money. Moonbat money.

Posted by: David at November 11, 2004 03:48 PM

Arafat: Architect of 2 school massacres and Nobel Prize winner. What’s wrong with this picture?

Posted by: Joe Marino at November 11, 2004 05:41 PM

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I think that's the most appropriate thing I've heard said about it all day.

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