November 07, 2004

Eighth Grade Caricatures

Because I’m a purple state kind of guy, I’m rankled by all the hectoring and sneering at the “Jesusland” red states. I feel like one half of my social circle is finishing up a week-long bitch-fest about the other half. Yeah, we just had an election and the losers are entitled to carp about it. Fine. That’s normal and perfectly understandable. But if you’re going to decry bigotry on the right, see if you can not act like a bigoted jerk yourself.

That goes for you, too, righties. Want to broaden the base of your party? Pay close attention to Matt Welch. He’ll tell you exactly how not to go about it.

Posted by Michael J. Totten at November 7, 2004 06:26 PM

Those people are not liberals. They are moonbats. There is plenty to criticize about the political views of perfectly respectable liberals (I use the term in its incorrect modern meaning) as conservatives. I know hundreds myself including myown friends and family. They are nothing like this and although I think they are wrong and in some cases stupid and dangerously naive, this kind of thing is distinctly unhelpful as it is when the left calls the middle of America "Jesusland".

Posted by: Doug at November 7, 2004 08:32 PM

"Those people are not liberals. They are moonbats."

Most accurately, they are the reactionary-left. They were actually liberal in their hey day, which, perhaps not coincidentally, reached it's high water mark with Roe v. Wade.

Since then, they've been defending the gains of their youth against the enemies of their youth. As time passes, so do those enemies, so does thier youth, and so does their ostensible liberalism. It would be sad if the same thing hadn't already happened to every generation that preceeded them...

Wish they'd quit hogging the "liberal" label, it's giving the rest of us a bad name.

Posted by: Ged of Earthsea at November 7, 2004 10:54 PM

Regardless where you fall on the color spectrum
(I am purple also), the political and intellectual landscape of recent years shows a clear trend, which became painfully obvious this election season. There are now more idiots and bigots on the Left than the Right.

These days, Leftist protestors carry signs in San Francisco saying things like "F**k Middle America", vandalize Republican Party campaign offices, call Bush "Hitler", shout down conservative speakers and attempt to censor conservative opinion on college campuses, demonize white males, hurl epithets at Jews, smash windows at Starbucks, and produce slanderous bile like "Farenheit 911", ( a movie which was celebrated by many so-called "liberals" ). I challenge you to find the equivalent of this behavior in similar numbers on the Right.

Yes there are bigots on the Right, and in the Center. Idiots too. But tally up the numbers folks. For every Michael Savage and Jerry Falwell, there are probably at least two Michael Moore's or Noam Chomsky's. If you don't believe me just visit Hollywood or your nearest college campus. I live in a red state, but I travel extensively, and I honestly believe that blue America is much more parochial and ignorant of red America than vice versa.

This is the kind of crap that is killing Democrats. But they can't help themselves because these jackasses (no pun) make up a significant party of the base of the Democrat Party.

Posted by: freeguy at November 8, 2004 01:23 AM

Here is the difference: Nobody in the GOP takes Michale Savage seriously. He is just a guy on the radio.

On the flipside, the Democrats and liberal/left establishment really do take Chomsky and Moore seriously.

That is the difference.

PS: Know why Bush won? Here's a hint: 9-11-01

Posted by: Tim at November 8, 2004 06:18 AM

Bush won because the Left put up the worst candidate they could find. Bush is just slightly less liberal than Kerry.

Posted by: Barney at November 8, 2004 07:27 AM

I know for a fact that Bush got several percentage points because people reacted to the hate/rage directed at him by his enemies. People are able to discern fair criticism vs hateful venomous personal assassination, distortion, lies, etc. Bush received too much of the latter. And the rage is only increasing.

Good luck in 2008 Dems.

Posted by: David at November 8, 2004 08:34 AM

Yes, everyone outside of SFO is a moron, and everyone in town is a super genious who think Mensa's for kids in the short yellow school bus. It's happening here too. The educated ones on this campus seem to be totally clueless as well: Anyone in my state house district who voted for the Democrat (since it's the cool thing to do if you want people to know you are educated, of course) supported a candidate who, according to, wants to slash higher education funding and emilinate environmental funding & welfare. Indeed, from his statements, he made his challengers like the Green party. But from my discussions, they smart people were too smart to even look this guy up.

But the people who fashionably voted straight democratic more educated than me -- since I voted for the "somewhat" more pro-Ed/welfare/environmental candidate. But stooopid me, she's a Republican.

Dumb Bill. Stoopid Bill. Unsophisticated Bill. But at least I studied for the test.

Posted by: Bill at November 8, 2004 08:38 AM

Wow Matt is very very angry. That is in a nutshell why I didn't vote for Kerry. I wanted them to be more angry at them than they were at us. It shouldn't have had to come down to them/us but hey if a 28yr old woman/single/pagan/worked with refugees ect. voted for Bush because she was scared of the other side. what more can you say? Oh and on the Dem side. Ignoring people like me who made choices that don't fit in with the whole everyone who voted for Bush is southern/stupid/homophobic/fundamentalist. What about us? There were more people like me than those silly sterotypes. It makes me angry to know that even in defeat they can't take voters serious. Bunch of f*ck ups.

Posted by: KAT at November 8, 2004 05:30 PM

They take Moore very seriously. A leftist I know at my office gave me a copy of "Stupid White Men." and suggested I read it to get educated. I suggested he read Victor Davis Hanson but I doubt he will.

Posted by: Doug at November 8, 2004 06:21 PM

KAT -- If you voted based on my anger, I'm afraid I have to disappoint you: I'm not angry about the election, at all.

Nor am I a Democrat, nor have I ever said anything remotely like that I believe people (such as Michael!) who voted for Bush are "southern/stupid/homophobic/fundamentalist." And, contrary to your assertion, I take Bush voters very seriously. In fact, I take them at their word, which I'd heartily recommend you all do as well.

Finally, as regards "silly stereotypes," that is precisely what my post was about: a video that equated "liberals" with junkies, Maoists, bums, and mincing homosexuals. Stereotypes work in every direction, turns out; including toward those who have the apparent bad manners to point out that, gee, even some Bush voters can engage in comical stereotyping. This doesn't make me angry, despite the authors' best efforts -- it makes me laugh.

Posted by: Matt Welch at November 8, 2004 09:08 PM

My apologizes for lumping Matt into a group. I live in DC and am a little tired of repeatly having to defend my sanity. I didn't vote for the Dems because I didn't think they were serious about the war. sterotypes exist all over the place but I suppose I am hearing a disproportionate number of what a Bush voter is. being a bush voter I have taken it a little personally.

Posted by: Kat at November 9, 2004 07:03 AM

Kat -- None needed, but accepted happily!

Posted by: Matt Welch at November 9, 2004 09:27 AM
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