November 04, 2004

Terrorist Death Watch

So. Yasser Arafat might be dead. Finally. I refuse to say anything nice about the recently dead when the recently dead are enemies of the United States, civilization, and humanity. I'm with Jonah Goldberg.

He's a bad man who's been terrible for his people and if there's any justice, when he dies he will receive 72 virgins who look exactly like him.
Posted by Michael J. Totten at November 4, 2004 12:47 PM
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Cool.

Yassin, Rantissi and Arafat - all in the same year (if not, unfortunately, by the same method).

At least Arafat's going to die in a country where he's actually loved.

Posted by: SoCalJustice at November 4, 2004 01:04 PM

I loathe the bastard too, but 72 virgins who look like him? Cold, Jonah, cold.

Posted by: spc67 at November 4, 2004 01:15 PM

What he needs is 72 Virginians, say Jefferson et al.

Posted by: howard at November 4, 2004 01:39 PM

I would prefer God, as a Jewish Mother, to chose 72 "very nice girls" for him. Poetic Justice is Eternal.

Posted by: Bill at November 4, 2004 01:49 PM

And if he dies without being able to give Suha the information to find the $2-$3 billion in his personal fortune that he diverted from European donors... all the better.

Posted by: Eric Anondson at November 4, 2004 02:44 PM

Bon Voyage !!!

Another victory in the War on Terror without firing a shot

Posted by: barney at November 4, 2004 02:58 PM

Surely Thomas Jefferson is spinning in his grave, to be invoked in such a way, and on such a venial thread. Pains me, I tell ya!

Jefferson was pretty anti-interventionist, you may recall. He echoed George Washington in warning against "foreign entaglements". They were hardly the only Virginians to hold this stance. (Sidetrack: there's a great interpretive display at the first rest stop after you enter Oregon on I-84. One piece there contained a quote from Jefferson to the whites who began "settling" the region - in essence, it was "Good luck forming your government out here, we hope you will end up with a democratic system a lot like ours".)

So anyhow I'd have to think that Thomas Jefferson would readily recognize the problem at hand: a group of people who truly are a nation, the Palestinians, who have no State. He'd likely also be disgusted at the billions of dollars we use to arm the other side.

Arafat is/was undeniably their well-liked leader (unlike, say Bush's 51/48 America). Way to show less respect for that fact then even George W. Bush, who said "God bless his soul".

Posted by: Ken Spice at November 4, 2004 03:33 PM

Ken:

He is also a terrorist supporter and a thug. Fuck him.

Posted by: gibs. at November 4, 2004 03:54 PM

I'm offering a pledge over at my place to "do my best to unseat any U.S. politician, regardless of party, who sings the praises of Yasser Arafat upon the death of said terrorist, thug and henchman, a scourge to Israelis, oppressor and thief to his own people, and murderer of both."

Posted by: ken at November 4, 2004 04:04 PM

I guess praising your referring to GWB statement. I don't see that I singing his praises.

Posted by: gibs. at November 4, 2004 04:23 PM

So anyhow I'd have to think that Thomas Jefferson would readily recognize the problem at hand: a group of people who truly are a nation, the Palestinians, who have no State. He'd likely also be disgusted at the billions of dollars we use to arm the other side.

Maybe. Maybe he'd also be disgusted at the man who invented modern terrorism and plane hijacking, slaughtered Olympic athletes, turned his society into a death cult that worships false "martyrdom," and, well, let's let a Palestinian living in America tell the rest of the story:

I'm a Palestinian who was born and raised in Palestine, but I never felt that the PLO, headed by Arafat, was a representative of the Palestinian people. Personally, I never felt he was my "leader." To me, the entire PLO consists of those who take all the money and leave the struggling Palestinians starving and homeless. On the other hand, those who condemn Arafat for failing to lead and "suppress terrorism," I say to them how can a guy confined to a compound in shambles control an oppressed people? When he has to get permission to leave and come back (if he can) what kind of leader are you counting on in this case?" Rami, Madison, Wisconsin, USA

Or how about a Palestinian who still lives there:

"It will be a blessing if he dies. He has ruined all our chances, encouraged violence; and has not had the wisdom to provide peace for the Palestinians." Farid Al Atrache, Palestinian territories

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3961301.stm

Obviously there are a lot of Palestinians that are smarter than some Westerners who swallow PLO propaganda hook, line and sinker.

Thank god for that. If and when that monster dies, they might have a chance at fresh start, enabling of the E.U., U.N. and the terror-supporting far-left notwithstanding.

Amazing and sad how some people still don't get it.

Posted by: SoCalJustice at November 4, 2004 04:26 PM

What an uplifting group. Thanks for spreading the hate.

Posted by: Jack Bog at November 4, 2004 04:54 PM

Jack,

Spreading hate?

So unless you say nice things about a mass murdering, hyper-corrupt, fascist dictator who promoted a culture of oppression, suicide and jihad amongst his own people, while pocketing hundreds of millions of international aid money, it's spreading hate?

Jeebus, some people are so blinkered.

Posted by: SoCalJustice at November 4, 2004 05:00 PM

Jack Bog: Thanks for spreading the hate.

You know the story of the boy who cried wolf. I suggest revisiting it. But I'll remind you of what happened at the end. He was eaten. And it was his own damn fault.

You cry "hatemonger" at me and there is no way I'll be able to take you seriously when you call someone else the same thing. Save it.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at November 4, 2004 06:23 PM

I am a hater. I hate Yassir Arafat. My religious faith tells me I am to hate evil with all my heart. I hate evil. Yassir Arafat is evil. I hate Yassir Arafat. I just hope he dies before he can give Suha the numbers to the Swiss accounts. That would be poetic justice worthy of Rod Serling.

Posted by: Doug at November 4, 2004 06:42 PM

The juxtaposition of Michael J. Totten's post and Doug's is telling, isn't it? We're not just crying wolf here, Michael.

Posted by: Ken Spice at November 4, 2004 07:05 PM

Ken Spice writes: The juxtaposition of Michael J. Totten's post and Doug's is telling, isn't it?

No, except for the irony impaired.

He was basically taking the piss out of you and Jack, who think it's "not nice" and "hateful" to tell the truth about horrible, murderous, corrupt, fascist thugs who've showered the world in misery.

Have you hugged Osama today?

Posted by: SoCalJustice at November 4, 2004 07:13 PM

Why do some people call other people hatemongers when they hate someone bad in the world? Yassar Arafat may have lead a revolution but damn, didn't he mess up SO MANY THINGS in the process. He wasn't a good man. Plain and simple. Now, I don't feel the same level of disgust as some of you feel about him, but I respect your reasoning. That isn't a bad thing. So straigten up and fly right people who hate "hate" and let people feel the way they feel.

Posted by: Solo at November 4, 2004 07:15 PM

BTW, just to get something straight for the Ken Spices and Jack Bogs of the world, showing disgust and contempt for a horrible, corrupt, murderous, fascist thug "leader" of the Palestinians is not the same thing as "hating the Palestinians."

Plenty of Palestinians who see through the horror show that is the PLO and Arafat can't stand him either.

Pity that someone like Farid Al Atrache - who has to live with Arafat's bullshit - can see it and you two can't.

Posted by: SoCalJustice at November 4, 2004 07:20 PM

Ken Spice,

Were you sad when Uday and Qusay were killed in Iraq? Will you call me a hatemonger when I saw something mean about Osama after we kill him?

Jeebus. You guys wonder why you lost the first post-911 election. Get a grip!

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at November 4, 2004 07:21 PM

Cute. Uday and Qusay. Sorry, I don't debate at this level.

I'm thinking my grip is just fine, and you "liberal hawks" or whatever are in for some surprises. Guess we'll just have to wait and see whose grip is loose.

Posted by: Ken Spice at November 4, 2004 07:36 PM

MJT asks: Will you call me a hatemonger when I saw something mean about Osama after we kill him?

Judging from the answer to the last question (replete with the sly threat: you "liberal hawks" or whatever are in for some surprises) is a resounding: Yes.

Posted by: SoCalJustice at November 4, 2004 07:52 PM

Whoops, not sure what I just typed makes actual sense, but suffice to say, the answer to MJT's question is "yes."

Posted by: SoCalJustice at November 4, 2004 07:54 PM

Gimme a break, I wasn't making a threat. Strikes me that's the key though, in so many cases - you're so afraid!

Posted by: Ken Spice at November 4, 2004 07:59 PM

Ken Spice,

Afraid?

Whatever.

Besides, I voted for Kerry. I'm just ashamed that so many (I hope it's a small minority, but I admit I don't know) morally bankrupt individuals on the far-left who can't recognize evil when it's hitting them over the head (mirror time, Ken) did the same.

Posted by: SoCalJustice at November 4, 2004 08:06 PM

Funny how America is so often slimed for getting in bed with fascists over the years so as to fight the spread of communism or Iran's mullahcracy. But today, the anti-Jew Left desires America get in bed with a new fascist because of their own post-colonialist guilt. They reveal themselves.

The comparison to Uday and Qusay is entirely appropriate. Yasser ordered the torture and murder of his fellow "Palestinians" at a frightening rate to keep them in line (but still no where near the numbers achieved in Iraq). He did even worse, Yasser turned a whole "nation" into a suicide-death-cult for his own vanity.

Yasser usurped credit for nurturing the Palestinian's resistance against Israel. It would have been there without him, and more Palestinians would be alive without him, and arguably Palestine/Gaza would now exist as a state that peacably co-exists with Israel by now without him. Without Yasser and his terrorist apparatus, the US can more credibly arm-twist Israel into the two-state solution ASAP.

So he won the 1994 Nobel Peace prize, that only shows how gullible and debased the Nobel committee was and still is today.

Posted by: Eric Anondson at November 4, 2004 09:03 PM

Yassir Arafat is responsible for the deaths of more Jews than anyone since Hitler. He is responsible for the deaths of more Arabs than anyone this side of Sadaam Hussein. He is also responsible for the murder of over 100 Americans. I'll let God deal with forgiveness. It's not my option. I will celebrate his demise. Not just because it is a long time coming but because it cannot, in the long run, help but benefit the lives of both Israelis and Palestinians.

Posted by: Doug at November 4, 2004 09:44 PM

Arafat is a thug that destroyed one country : Lebanon and almost achieved the same with Jordanian Kingdom and Israel.
Adding that with the help of MSM started The mediatic terrorism . I have no doubts that Bin Laden got in his path because he saw what rewards Arafat got.

Posted by: lucklucky at November 4, 2004 10:36 PM

There are posters on campus now of the "spiritual" leader of Hamas -- the one who praised suicide bombers and especially encouraged children to follow in their footsteps -- trying to prortray him as a thoughtful, and of course "spiritual," intellecutal murdered by the Jews... uh... Israelis). Naturally we will see the same thing with Arafat - the statesman who won a Nobel Prize for Killing Jews. It's hip and withit and since they can ride their campus busses around town and to student parking without being blown to smithereens by a Globalized "Anti-Zionist" (at least so far), it's a very safe stance to take.

And on that note, I shall pimp our gracious hosts column on the subject for those who don't look at his sidebar"

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Posted by: Bill at November 5, 2004 08:54 AM

Poopie... the comments system doesn't do "href's"

Here's the link or you could just go to the sidebar...

http://www.techcentralstation.com/061004D.html

Posted by: Bill at November 5, 2004 08:55 AM
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