November 02, 2004

For the Record

I voted last week by mail. (No lines. No waiting. No bullshit.) Here's who I picked.

President: George W. Bush - Republican
Senator: Ron Wyden - Democrat
Representative: Earl Blumenauer - Democrat

Posted by Michael J. Totten at November 2, 2004 03:25 PM

Well at least you exercised the right men have died for to ensure you were able. Sitting home and voting seems like such a waste, it is fun to wait at the polls and hear what people are saying before they cast that vote. My polling place in NJ was more crowded than ever hopefully voting for Bush. The only problem with voting for Dems for senate and house is they could get a majority and if Kerry wins we would be in even bigger trouble. But the beauty of America is everyone has a chance to have a say. I am conservative close to being a libertarian but this time I voted a straight Rep. ticket.

Posted by: barney at November 2, 2004 04:15 PM

Good for you mate.

Nice cheat sheet for the otherwise informed.

I avoided posting my vote for the large ticket items (like a toaster or a fridge). But I have provided a cheat sheet of sorts for our many, many state ballot initiatives. I hope it helps.

Vote F*CKER.

Posted by: sblafren at November 2, 2004 04:35 PM

Straight Republican ticket, though here in Hawaii the Reps are like Dems used to be and Dems are like Greens.

Posted by: spc67 at November 2, 2004 04:54 PM

Thanks for voting with your head, not merely your heart. As a transplanted Oregonian now living in Chicago, I heard a lot of crazy emotional arguements from my friends and family who still reside in L.O., PDX, and Bend. It makes a lot of sense to me now that I live elsewhere, but I am curious, do you support a sales tax?


Posted by: TFW at November 2, 2004 05:38 PM


No, I do not support a sales tax. To hell with that.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at November 2, 2004 05:49 PM

Sen. Wyden is great. His staff helped me out above and beyond of duty when I had trouble with US bureaucracy a few years back.

Posted by: miklos rosza at November 2, 2004 11:02 PM

What blows me away is the results on measures 36 and 37--36 being the anti-gay marriage amendment, and 37 requires compensation for property values lost when land-use laws change. Similar measures have come up before and have always been voted down--but 37 even went 50-50% in Multnomah County (that's Portland, land of the greens)! I guess banning gay marriage is really a reaction to the quasi-legal gay marriages in Multnomah county, so that's understandable, but still disappointing.

I sympathize with the spirit behind 37, but I don't think anybody's thought through the consequences of this particular measure. Local politics is about to get interesting as the dominoes begin to fall.

Posted by: Neil at November 3, 2004 12:08 AM

How does a state vote Democrats into every state office and then vote for measures limiting civil rights for gat people, a meassure that destroys urban planning and environmental regulations, and capping medical malpractice damages? And then vote against protecting the forests, against expanding medical marijuana, and against abolishing a state insurance monopoly. Compassionate Conservative? How about just compassionate Liberals? I don't know the Democrats anymore if these is what people who vote for them stand for.

Posted by: sean at November 3, 2004 12:24 AM

Neil: I sympathize with the spirit behind 37, but I don't think anybody's thought through the consequences of this particular measure.

Agreed. I voted against it. And I voted against the anti-gay measure, too.

Posted by: Michael J. Totten at November 3, 2004 12:47 AM

Dont forget that 37 kills urban planning AND environmental regulations, among other things. And it was passed in a state that voted Democrats into all the statewide offices. So, tell me again what the Dems stand for?

Posted by: sean at November 3, 2004 01:20 AM

how is voting against gay marriage being anti-gay? sheesh. Some people believe marriage is largely about binding biological parents to their kids. I think the stem cell bill is going to plunge california into having more $$$ problems. stem cell research is overhyped and should get more private funding.

Posted by: passing thru at November 3, 2004 02:25 AM

Michael, I am aware that Oregon has promoted the vote by mail and other options, but I do have reservations about it.
Nothing like going to a common polling place to do your civic duty, a very democratic and civilizing experience where all are equal under the law, all casting their vote in a public place.
Voting by mail is a much less social and unifying event.
Of course, if I lived in a monolithic, intolerant precinct like you do, I might be willing to give up the voting in person! Much more easygoing and diverse population here...
Mail voting creates new problems in fraud avoidance, like we don't have enough already with provisional ballots, Philly and Chicago style machine politics, etc. But Oregon's procedures sound like they work in that culture, sure would not want to trust it in, say, St. Louis or Philly or Chicago, where vote-packing is not considered beyond the pale.

Posted by: Seppo at November 3, 2004 05:14 AM

Similar measures [to 37] have come up before and have always been voted down

Wrong. The only other one was measure 7 in 2000, and it passed by a wide margin. The Supreme Court overturned it on a technicality.

I voted for 37. I relish the thought of the Department of Lands going bankrupt, and all their enforcers having to get real jobs instead of lording it over landowners with their dadaist land-use restrictions. It's not about the environment, or zoning, or esthetics. It's about the arbitrary exercise of power. The previous system created an incentive to frivolous, abusive regulation; e.g. there's a dry ditch full of highway litter on my land, and Oregon says it's salmon habitat, so I can't put a culvert in it. I guess any salmon which get up here will be walking upright, and they might bump their heads. But there's already a culvert 50 yards up "stream", where this ditch passes under the highway and terminates in the bar ditch.

My ass. Note that 37 won't unscrew me, since the designation was in place when I bought the lot. Nor will it bring an end to zoning as we know it (as some fear-mongers insist). But it will put a brake on their lordships' depradations for the future.

Posted by: dipnut at November 3, 2004 11:55 AM

37 has its problems. If the guy living next to you has owned his place long enough he can put in the dreaded pig farm or gravel operation and there isn't anything you can do about it. If he bought recently, then he can't. Sounds like a screwed up system.

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