October 30, 2004
The Professor Returns
Glenn Reynolds is back from vacation and posting again on Instapundit.
Thanks, Glenn, for letting the three of us kids play on the Insta-lawn while you were out. And thanks for letting us stick around through the election.
Posted by Michael J. Totten at October 30, 2004 10:58 AMMichael,
Thank you for doing such a great job on Instapundit. Also, I will be gald when you are back here on your own site. Although I rarely post, I read you everyday!
Posted by: GameKeeper at October 30, 2004 12:37 PMYou should put a link to your site on the sidebar.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Jaybird at October 30, 2004 02:21 PMY'all did a great job in his absence--in fact a remarkable improvement.
Sadly, the good professor wasted no time in McCarthyizing--he just labeled Bush's political opponents as Osama-lovers.
I expect him to make an "aiding and comforting the enemy" remark about Kerry before Tuesday.
Posted by: Geek, Esq. at October 30, 2004 02:23 PMOh, and by the way, it's not a "blog" if you can't post comments on it. It's just a website.
Posted by: David at October 30, 2004 03:56 PM“Sadly, the good professor wasted no time in McCarthyizing--he just labeled Bush's political opponents as Osama-lovers.”
Glenn Reynolds said no such thing. However, I gladly plead guilty to describing a large number of Bush’s political opponents as unwittingly helpful to Osama bin Ladin. On a practical level, folks like Michael Moore are the “useful idiots” of our current age. Sadly, good intentions alone are not sufficient. One’s brain must still function in a minimal manner.
Posted by: David Thomson at October 30, 2004 03:58 PMGeek,
Maybe that's because they sound like Osama lovers.
"The Dems hate George W. Bush with a raging fury. So does al-Qaeda. Was it really so shocking that the rhetoric of the former would eventually be taken up by the latter?
No, this tape should cause many on the left to stare into the mirror for a long time and ask, “What have I turned into? How did I become so reflexively partisan, so blinded by rage, so intemperate in my rhetoric that my own arguments are being echoed by a man who planned and enjoyed the mass murder of Americans?”
“How the hell did I reach the point where I agree with Osama bin Laden on Bush?”
UPDATE: I’m not going to go looking for too many “Well, now I agree with Osama” comments from lefties. But I had these comments by Daily Kos readers forwarded to me: “He couldn’t believe that Shrub stayed in a classroom reading a book about a goat to kids while his country was being attacked. SMACKDOWN from OBL.” Another one: “well I guess I have to agree with the man. Although it pains me. on a side note. Is Amazon shipping F911 to Afgan addresses?”
Posted by: David at October 30, 2004 04:15 PMps. the above is from Charles Johnson at LGF.
Posted by: David at October 30, 2004 04:20 PMMichael, thanks for filling in for Prof. Reynolds. Ya done good.
David, if the foo shits --
Regards,
Ric Locke
My two cents...
I prefer your in depth ruminations as presented here as opposed to the Reynold's style synopsis-and-link. I visit both Instapundit and you daily, specifically because of that.
That being said, you, Megen and Anne did such a good job, I would think a group blog with the likes of you four (Glen included) would be smashing.
Posted by: bains at October 30, 2004 10:20 PMLet's try a little thought experiment...
You'd need a time machine to do that Geek. Find some current day sworn enemy of the US parroting the talking points of GOP and you might be able to make your point.
Posted by: bains at October 30, 2004 10:33 PMLet's try a little thought experiment...
You'd need a time machine to do that Geek.
Find some current day declared enemy of the US parroting the talking points of the GOP and you might be able to make your case.
"WHY THE LEFT NEEDS TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR: I agree. When even Kerry supporters note the similarity between Osama videos and Democratic campaign propaganda, it's a problem."
In other words, Kerry supporters think like bin Laden.
Let's try a little thought experiment. Let's say somebody said:
"Why the right needs to look in the mirror. I agree. When even Bush supporters note the similarity between Nazi propaganda and Republican campaign propaganda, it's a problem."
How many Bush supporters wouldn't be offended by such a statement, or find it to be gutter politics?
He's also pounding on another of his favorite Orwellian themes: The press should be punished if the Dear Leader loses.
InstaGoebbels: Smearing the opposition party as disloyal and the press as a giant evil conspiracy.
Posted by: Geek, Esq. at October 30, 2004 10:53 PMDavid:
Charles Johnson is one of the most hateful people on the blogosphere. He is hardly in a position to talk.
Posted by: Geek, Esq. at October 30, 2004 10:56 PMI can see it now. You've been posting for Instapundit and you won't have time for the little people at your site any more, eh?
Admit it! You're a bigshot now. So say it. Say "I always have time for my fans" and then flounce off for a manicure without looking back. We know it's going to happen!
Posted by: James Versluys at October 30, 2004 10:58 PMI have a better take down of The Lancet on my blog than any I've seen. It's got all sorts of unexplored aspects of the 'study' that don't make sense. The author of the TCs article, Tim Worstall (IIRC), said as much in a private E-mail. Can a brotha get a hat tip?
I'm not asking for an Instalanche. But something?
Posted by: Birkel at October 30, 2004 10:58 PMGeek -
Osama made exactly the same points as Bush's opponents. That was Glen Reynolds' point. It's not hateful, it's a fact. Given that, it should cause the Libs to look in the mirror.
If you are going to make accusations that Republican campaign rhetoric sounds like Nazi propaganda, you had better be able to supply facts in support of your statement. Please give quotes of the Republican rhetoric in question and corresponding quotes from Nazi propaganda, with appropirate attribution for each, so that a fair comparison can be made. Otherwise, stop making unsubstantiated cheap shots.
Posted by: Ben at October 31, 2004 05:42 AMGeek,
You're right about Charles Johnson; he hates the enemies of this country, and is very open and honest about it. I guess that would make him hateful.
Posted by: David at October 31, 2004 06:30 AMI’ve been alerting people to the subtle anti-Semitic attitudes among many of John Kerry’s supporters. Well, here is some further evidence:
October 31, 2004 -- THIS campaign is ending just in time before someone gets hurt. John Kerry's stepson, Chris Heinz, 31, displayed his mother Teresa's famous lack of rhetorical restraint at a recent campaign event with a group of Wharton students.
"Philadelphia magazine reports: "Heinz accused Kerry's opponents - 'our enemies' - of making the race dirty. 'We didn't start out with negative ads calling George Bush a cokehead,' he said, before adding, 'I'll do it now.' Asked later about it, Heinz said, 'I have no evidence. He never sold me anything.'" Heinz also reminded writer Sasha Issenberg of Pat Buchanan by saying, "One of the things I've noticed is the Israel lobby - the treatment of Israel as the 51st state, sort of a swing state." Buchanan was blasted as an anti-Semite years ago when he cited Israel's "amen corner" in Congress."
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/33033.htm
Posted by: David Thomson at October 31, 2004 07:00 AMDavid, I wouldn't worry over anything more that is said by Kerry, his wife, her son, Edwards, etc...Desperation makes people say and do desperate things..When it is all said and done these people will only be remembered as being the group that ran the dirtiest and most lowly Presidential campaign in our history..And, 30 years from now, people from this era will still remember how John Kerry once again sold out our Military for his own self-importance..It's almost over!!!
Posted by: Cathy at October 31, 2004 07:36 AM"Why the right needs to look in the mirror. I agree. When even Bush supporters note the similarity between Nazi propaganda and Republican campaign propaganda, it's a problem."
How many Bush supporters wouldn't be offended by such a statement, or find it to be gutter politics?
Nazi propaganda was blatantly racist, extremist, non-democratic, based on hate and on the idea of a master supremacist race. The only current movement that it can be compared to is the Islamist supremacist movement that al Qaeda represents.
Bin Laden is nationalistic and anti-Semitic. He believes that he has the right to grab power through the use of terror, and he believes that he has the right to exterminate anyone who does not share his beliefs. The only difference between his cult and the cult of the Third Reich is in their treatment of women.
When a monster like bin Laden begins using the left’s talking points, the left should worry about what they’ve become, and where they're going.
Posted by: mary at October 31, 2004 07:59 AM"It's almost over!!!"
I agree. Bush should win by at least a six point margin. I am also almost ready to predict a landslide victory. Republicans are voting in droves. I do not sense the same enthusiasm among the mainstream Democrats. It is my guess that we will know that President Bush is victorious within the first hour after the polls open, Tuesday morning.
Is Kerry's campaign the dirtiest in American history? I'm not sure of that---but it is the slimiest, for sure, in the last hundred years.
Posted by: David Thomson at October 31, 2004 08:04 AMMichael,
Thanks for doing a great job on your blog and on Instapundit. I haven't been following your spot as closely as I should - looks like we have some common interests. (And PDX neighbors too, apparently.) Keep up the good work.
Posted by: Asher Abrams - Dreams Into Lightning at October 31, 2004 08:46 AMbelated appologies for the double post...
Posted by: bains at October 31, 2004 03:25 PMPeople either are ignorant of basic principles of logic, or are willfully ignoring them.
Premise A: Bush opponents make a number of blunt charges against Bush.
Premise B: Bin Laden releases a propaganda video parroting these arguments.
Conclusion: Bush opponents must be thinking like Osama.
This is unforgiveably atrocious reasoning. There are at least two gigantic logical fallacies at play here.
Fallacy #1: When bin Laden says something, he must believe it. He wouldn't be making these arguments if he didn't believe them.
Fallacy #2: If bin Laden says it, it is per se impossible that it is true.
As a matter of logic, bin Laden's parroting of the criticisms of Bush is completely irrelevant to both the underlying truth of the accusations and the mindset of those who originally made them.
You people are either being played by bin Laden, or are consciously using his words to support totalitarian rhetoric.
Also note that labeling opponents of Bush's policies as disloyal traitors and attempting to stigmatize dissenters as traitors is something that Reynolds frequently indulges in.
Situation: Abu Ghraib torture and rape revealed.
Instaresponse: The press are disloyal traitors, and will suffer the consequences if they keep it up.
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Admittedly, reporters and editors make
mistakes. But when all the mistakes are on the
side of opposing the liberation of Iraq, and
none of the mistakes favor the United States
or Britain or Bush or Blair, it tells you
something.
Namely, which side they're on.
Try as one might, it's getting hard to avoid that sort of inference. Not that they actively favor the terrorists, of course. They just view beating their domestic political enemies as more important.
Freedom of the press, as it exists today (and didn't exist, really, until the 1960s) is unlikely to survive if a majority -- or even a large and angry minority -- of Americans comes to conclude that the press is untrustworthy and unpatriotic. (A perception I am consciously doing everything in my power to spread*)
*What Reynolds would add were he honest.
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This is the language of Joe Stalin and Joseph Goebbels.
David:
Charles Johnson views the great majority of people disagreeing with him as the enemies of civilization. He especially seems to condemn as immoral, indecent traitors left of center blogs with similar traffic to his site's. Examples include Atrios, Josh Marshall, and Kos.
Also note that Reynolds includes a link on his blogroll to this thug:
http://www.nicedoggie.net/archives/004719.html#004719
Also note this charming story of freedom-loving Bush supporters:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/30/haters/index_np.html
" Lisa Dupler, a 33-year-old from Columbus, held up a rainbow-striped John Kerry sign outside the Nationwide Arena on Friday, as Republicans streamed out after being rallied by George W. Bush and Arnold Schwarzenegger. A thickset woman with very short, dark hair, Dupler was silent and barely flinched as people passing her hissed "faggot" into her ear. An old lady looked at her and said, "You people are sick!" A kid who looked to be about 10 or 11 affected a limp wrist and mincing voice and said, "Oh, I'm gay." Rather than restraining him, his squat mother guffawed and then turned to Dupler and sneered, "Why don't you go marry your girlfriend?" Encouraged, her son yelled, "We don't want faggots in the White House!"
The throngs of Republicans were pumped after seeing the president and the action hero. But there was an angry edge to their elation. They shrieked at the dozen or so protesters standing on the concrete plaza outside the auditorium. "Kerry's a terrorist!" yelled a stocky kid in baggy jeans and braces. "Communists for Kerry! Go back to Russia," someone else screamed. Many of them took up the chant "Kerry sucks"; old women and teenage boys shouting with equal ferocity.
The similarity between Bush supporters on one hand and the Ku Klux Klan and Fred Phelps on the other is extremely disturbing. The right truly needs to look at itself in the mirror.
Posted by: Geek, Esq. at October 31, 2004 07:45 PMGeek -
You have completely missed the point. The validity (or lack thereof) of the charges made by bin Laden is not the issue. The issue is that the same charges against Bush are being made by bin Laden and by certain Democrats. (I note that bin Laden made many of those charges only after the Dems did). That means either that bin Laden agrees with those charges or that he believes that the charges will help his cause or that he believes that those charges will somehow advance his cause. This should give the Dems a reason to consider their words carefully.
Posted by: Ben at November 1, 2004 10:56 AMBen:
You are still falling for logical fallacies. Can you read bin Laden's mind?
If I were bin Laden, and wanted to discredit someone in the US, I would do my best to associate myself with them and endorse them.
Seriously, this is nothing but the right wing demagoguing the issue and questioning the loyalty and patriotism of their opponents.
Posted by: Geek, Esq. at November 1, 2004 11:18 AMGeek --
I can't decide whether you are feeling defensive or trying to change the subject. I am not reading anyone's mind, falling for logical fallacies or accusing anyone of being unpatriotic. I am listening to the words they are saying and reacting to the same. Let me repeat: bin Laden has repeated the Dem talking points. The Dems should think about this and evaluate the validity of their own statements.
Posted by: Ben at November 1, 2004 03:56 PMGeek: The similarity between Bush supporters on one hand and the Ku Klux Klan and Fred Phelps on the other is extremely disturbing.
If you don't appreciate Ann Coulter's "liberals love terrorism" shtick then try not to be her counterpart and see how that works for you.
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