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Jay Nordlinger in National Review implies that conservatives are behind the Free Tibet movement.
You will recall that, in previous columns, we have spoken of Meghan Howard, the Harvard kid who stood up to the Chinese Number One when he appeared at that school. Miss Howard is a supporter of the Tibetan cause. And the Harvard administration has come down on her for her disruption. Because, you know, that's what it always does: penalize students for disrupting various events for political reasons. (That was a joke: Leftist students who do such things are patted on the head for their conscientiousness and good citizenship.)Hang on a sec. Is "Free Tibet" a conservative idea on the East Coast?
In my part of the country it's a left-liberal thing. I went to the University of Oregon in Eugene where every third hippie had a "Free Tibet" patch sewn into their backpack. Conservatives never seemed to pay the slightest attention to it.
Maybe it's different at Harvard. Who knew? I certainly didn't.
Is it true? Or is Mr. Nordlinger a little off base here?
UPDATE: Nathan Hamm thinks Jay Nordlinger is off base, and he has a lot more to say about the Chinese oppression of Tibetans and the rarely thought-about Uighurs of East Turkestan.
I think this is a case of muddled writing. As near as I can tell, Free Tibet-ers out here are pretty much the same as in Eugene. They tend to dress nicer and bathe more out here though.
The letter from her father indicates that she's a Bush supporter. I think Nordlinger is suggesting that's why she's being punished.
Tibet really shouldn't be a left or right kind of thing, just like any other human rights issue. These causes tend to be adopted by, championed by, use the language of, and become ideologically rigid orthodoxies of the left. I'm sure that Meghan does catch crap among other Free Tibet-ers over her support for Bush, and Nordlinger is suggesting that her punishment is part and parcel of enforcing party orthodoxy.
I personally doubt it. I'm sure that causing a scene during a visitng dignitary's speech is cause for punishment no matter your personal politics at Harvard. And, well, that's the way it should be.
Posted by: Nathan at February 7, 2004 05:35 PMThis kind of gets at something I've never been able to understand...
These modern "left-liberals" will plaster FREE TIBET bumper stickers on their cars and then protest against the War in Iraq without seeing any sort of contradiction there.
The best way to shut these people up is to ask them, "So, if you're so gung-ho for a Free Tibet plank in American foriegn policy, I assume you'd also wish the same for the people of Iran?" Gets them every time.
If the NATIONAL REVIEW of all publications has decided to make the cause of humanitarian intervention their own...Good for them. It's a little strange to say the least and I never thought I'd be saying it but three cheers for the National Review!
Conservatives for Wilsonianism: It's hard to believe, sometimes, just how much 9/11 has changed everything.
Posted by: Grant McEntire at February 7, 2004 06:19 PMMan, your college experience is quite different from mine. Most of the guys I knew, not me of course, wore whatever patch gave them the best chance of getting laid. A "Free Tibet" patch was sure to get you into a boring all-night discussion that would eventually get around to Richard Gere, pretty stiff competition. Any of the moronic anti-WTO patches were a much safer bet.
Posted by: Diggs at February 7, 2004 06:52 PMUm, the WOT has permitted China to crack down hard in Tibet, and it's mostly been forgotten.
Posted by: praktike at February 7, 2004 07:32 PMTo his credit, Mr. Nordlinger has long been a proponent of freeing Tibet, China, and Cuba. He writes often about these causes and the dissidents who advance them. That said, I live in the Boston area and the folks I've met who wear "Free Tibet" t-shirts or sport "Free Tibet" bumper stickers are not conservatives. This is, of course, exclusive of the aforementioned fellows who are trolling for "dates".
Posted by: steve at February 7, 2004 07:36 PMTibetan Buddhism is hip now. In Tibetan Buddhism, sex is considered religious, and leftists think it's good to be in touch with one's sexuality; tantra promises multiple orgasms. Plus, the Dalai Lama speaks truth to power.* Not to mention, Uma Thurman's dad is a Tibetan Buddhism bigwig, and she did heroin in that hip movie.
*"We have seen that we cannot solve human problems by fighting. Problems resulting from differences in opinion must be resolved through the gradual process of dialogue. [SNIP][T]he real losers will be the poor and defenseless, ones who are completely innocent, and those who lead a hand-to-mouth existence."
Posted by: Jim at February 7, 2004 08:09 PMTibet's always been a cause that kind of pissed me off because of how insincere its followers come off. The Dalai Lama is a smart and charismatic man who is not at all ashamed to cultivate whatever image will help him achieve his goals. And hey, more power to him. Tibet is 25% of why I dislike China.
I gotta say though that the treatment of the Uighurs in East Turkestan (I don't use the "X" word that means "frontier province" or some such nonsense in Chinese) is 50% of why I don't like China. I know I'm biased; I love Turks. Their suffering is perhaps worse than that of the Tibetans, but the patterns of abuse are very similar.
Islam isn't trendy with Hollywood types, doesn't have concerts to "free" it, and Uyghurs don't have a charismatic spiritual leader to press their case. And here's why the Free Tibet movement pisses me off so much, they're ignorant about other (much worse) human rights issues and seemingly only in it to be seen.
I'm actually probably going to post on this over at The Argus.
Posted by: Nathan at February 7, 2004 08:22 PMWhen I was in college (five years ago) Free Tibet was probably the #1 left-wing cause, along with Free Mumia. This was before anti-globo, and then eventually Bush/Ashcroft/Iraq.
Posted by: Stephen Silver at February 7, 2004 08:22 PM"When I was in college (five years ago) Free Tibet was probably the #1 left-wing cause, along with Free Mumia."
There's a student living in the row house opposite mine who sports two stickers on her car: "War is Not The Answer" and "Free Tibet". I've had to stop myself several times from leaving a Post-it note on her car saying "What? We're supposed to use Orbital Mind Control Lasers, then?", mostly because she's probably against SDI as well.
Moe
Posted by: Moe Lane at February 7, 2004 08:45 PMThis is just another example of 21st century politics taking a turn for the surreal. Leftists are turning into isolationist pacifists while neocons try to save the world.
Regarding Tibet, my problem is pretty much the same as Nathan's. I support the cause completely - it's just all the damn ignorance surrounding the issue that bothers me. "Free Tibet" has - to my generation - become much like "Give peace a chance" was to my parent's. It's shallow, and has no real substance. Those who go around propagating it don't understand the consequences of their position (like actually using military force to "Free Tibet", god forbid).
Moreover, I consider it to be a serious warning sign when Rage Against the Machine is so adamantly supporting a cause. :-)
Posted by: Sean at February 7, 2004 10:39 PMMichael,
No, free Tibet hasn’t caught on with conservatives yet. How do I know? Because if it had, something would have been done by now! Liberal leadership likes to keep such issues on the table to bellow and argue about forever! Make it enough of an issue however and Bush just might be willing take that one off the table as well!
Posted by: Samuel at February 7, 2004 10:44 PMSean,
Hey I appreciate that as a self described evil neo-con activist myself. It would take on more substance if the neo-con would run with it. Let's go! And yes peace is an ojective not a policy something lost on the left years ago.
Posted by: Samuel at February 7, 2004 10:48 PMIt is confusing since the liberal left tradition is to ignore or even actively support nasty behavior on the part of Communists. For those on the right side of the spectrum Tibet is just another entry in the long list of ChiCom misdeeds and doesn't deserve special recognition. Lefties tend more toward finding appeal in exotic mysticism so Tibet is elevated in their minds. Never mind that it was already a pretty rotten place for human rights before the Chinese took over.
Posted by: Eric Pobirs at February 7, 2004 11:12 PMUm, the WOT has permitted China to crack down hard in Tibet, and it's mostly been forgotten.
praktike, do you mean to imply that the WOT (war on terror) has contributed to the crackdown on Tibet? The formulation "has permitted" is pretty strong. It would imply that but for the WoT, the "permission" Chinese have to crack down would be absent - quite a strong statement to toss out unsupported.
Or did you accidentally transpose the trailing letters of the WTO reference in the previous post? True, the WTO hasn't done much for Tibet either.
Tibet inspires support faces indifference across the political spectrum. "Progressives", anti-communist paleo-cons, human rights oriented neo-cons advocate for Tibet. Old school lefties, commercially oriented conservatives (not a redundant formulation BTW) and Kissingerian realpolitikos all tend to shrug it off.
Tibet is sadly such an ideological shuttlecock because of the impossible situation it faces. The cause ("Free Tibet"), quite simply, is beyond help. The nonviolent appeal to conscience pursued by the Dali Lama has been ineffective, except to remind us that the western concept of political "conscience" is not universal. Even the most "evil neo-con activist" (I'm in one of the inner rings here, but not perhaps the innermost) must acknowledge the impossibility of military intervention. Given the realities of the Chinese economy and market, sanctions and boycotts are equally impossible - the rewards of dealing with the Chinese creates a race to the bottom as far as principle goes.
The hopelessness of the Tibetan situation with respect to a recovery of their sovereignty was evident before either the WTO or WOT. Tibet has not been "forgotten", but too much of the discourse budgeted to Tibet is consumed with posturing for domestic political consumption. Promoting awareness and maintaining vigilance is so important precisely because it's the only recourse apparent.
Posted by: lewy14 at February 8, 2004 02:20 AMMichael,
I went to the University of Oregon in Eugene where every third hippie had a "Free Tibet" patch sewn into their backpack. Conservatives never seemed to pay the slightest attention to it.
The Chinese obviously never paid attention either. Why would they? Maybe one more patch, bumper sticker or bong hit will set Tibet free! I have an idea for a few bumper stickers:
"Bumper Stickers Are NOT The Answer!"
"Free Bumpers From Useless Slogans!"
Wanna know what gets the attention of the Chinese? Aircraft carriers and war exercises in the Taiwan Straits. And occasionally bombing their embassies works too.
The people who have suffered the most from the Chinese government are the Chinese people. If you want to free Tibet, then free China from Marxist fascism.
Posted by: HA at February 8, 2004 04:01 AMSamuel,
I couldn't agree more. Pardon me if I was not clear - human rights issues are not exclusive to any party or philosophy. I just think it's unusual to see conservatives describe the virtues of setting foreign populations free (and doing a fairly good job of it to boot) after complaining about Clinton's wide deployments for eight years.
Not that I'm crazy about Clinton's foreign policy and military cutbacks, though.... That's a separate issue altogether.
And, to lewy14:
You're right - Tibet is beyond hope, at least for now. I think it's very possible that Eastern Asia is ripe for major transformations, coming from both internal and external sources. Only time will tell.
I will agree that spreading awareness about Tibet is important, but let's not get carried away. There's a fine line between spreading awareness and becoming absurdly self-righteous. Pop culture's adoption of the "Free Tibet" movement is an excellent example of ignorant people taking a two word slogan, plastering it everywhere, and thinking highly of themselves because they're suddenly socially responsible, even if they've never picked up a newspaper or watched CNN. Quite frankly, it makes me sick, and has left the issue of Tibet with an ugly stain that many people (such as myself) want nothing to do with.
Posted by: Sean at February 8, 2004 09:47 AMMichael Parenti, a real hardcore leftist with a large following on many college campuses, has a long article criticizing the Free Tibet movement from a hardcore Stalinist viewpoint at his website Michaelparenti.org.
Posted by: markus rose at February 8, 2004 03:39 PMI've always been a little leery of the "Free Tibet" position. Free them to what? Back to a theocracy? Not that this is to support what China is doing and has done since the 18th century.
I tend to think of the "Free Tibet" movement in terms of Lee Harris' idea of "fantasy ideology." Those with the Free Tibet swag (not all, but I suspect most) care little about Tibet, but use it as a prop to play out a fantasy of moral superiority.
Just a thought from the college campus!
Posted by: lancer at February 8, 2004 04:39 PMI have a "First Iraq, Then Tibet" sticker on my segway.
Posted by: Bleeding heart conservative at February 8, 2004 06:45 PMBTW the Dalai Lama gave qualified support to the Iraq war - when asked about it, he said that sometimes violence is necessary to remove a dictator. (I imagine the question hit close to home for him.)
Posted by: Yehudit at February 8, 2004 11:49 PMYehudit,
Dalai Lama gave qualified support to the Iraq war
That ought to kill the free Tibet "movement" once and for all.
Posted by: HA at February 9, 2004 03:31 AMSo BHC...
I have a "First Iraq, Then Tibet" sticker on my segway.
Would you consider marketing that one? It makes an excellent point about how the "Free Tibet" stickers is a (yet another) inconsequential pose, while Freeing Iraq was concrete action.
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