December 29, 2003
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Howard Dean is pretending to be stupid.
Here he is on the capture of Saddam Hussein:
"If we are safer, how come we lost 10 more troops and raised the safety alert" to the orange level, Dean said Sunday night in Ankeny, Iowa.I don’t really think he’s that dumb. I could be wrong, perhaps I’m overestimating him. But he’s a successful governor and a doctor. You don’t get that far in life without smarts. What I really think is that Howard Dean thinks his supporters are stupid.
No one could possibly believe the capture of Saddam Hussein would make every single Baathist thug in Iraq lay down his arms and go home. No one could possibly believe that yanking Saddam out of a hole in the ground would make Al Qaeda quit the jihad.
I doubt there’s a single anti-war activist who thinks the hawks believe the Terror War is over all of a sudden. But Howard Dean thinks so and hopes his supporters will find his latest pop-off witty and clever. I think he’s mistaken. “Safer” doesn’t mean “safe,” and everyone knows it.
If George W. Bush said "We got Saddam, the War on Terror is over," then Howard Dean would have a point.
POST-SCRIPT: If, like me, you can't get enough of Howard Dean, check out Jonathan Chait's Diary of a Dean-o-phobe blog at The New Republic. Chait is a Bush-hating liberal who would rather plug away at Howard Dean on a regular basis. Dean just does that to people.
Many people have a dream of Dean in the Oval Office as President. Many people have dreams of the cast of "Charmed" doing unspeakably naughty things to them while dressed exclusively in chocolate syrup. I'm not saying there's a link, but I think that both dreams are about equally likely.
Of course, now I've started a meme that will result in Dean visiting the "Charmed" set to prove the power of blogs to get him elected. It might work, too. If he had more then a fantasy for a foriegn policy...
Posted by: Patrick Lasswell at December 30, 2003 12:02 AMThe case that the capture of Saddam has made America safer is a sound one, I believe. However it cannot be said that this case can be made very simply and directly. Against any argument that runs longer than a couple sentences, pernicious sarcasm finds its mark too easily.
The question is, to what end does Dean pursue this sarcastic attack? Unlike MJT I don't think Dean thinks his supporters think the hawks think the "Terror war is over all of a sudden" (got it?). That his "latest pop-off" should be found witty and clever is not a means of discourse but an end in itself.
The objective merit of the statement is irrelevant to his base of supporters - in fact, for many of them, "security" and "terrorism" are bogus signifiers manufactured by the fascist right to grab power and enrich themselves. Dean feeds them their red meat not out of any conviction or lack of "smarts", but simply as a rock star drunk on adulation. Dean is displaying all the sobriety of Jim Morrison in Miami.
Posted by: lewy14 at December 30, 2003 02:47 AMThe thing that really bothers me is this, Dean sealed all of his Governor Records for 10 years. If Bush had done this before running for President the press would have had a field day. Yet, we see nothing written or spoken about it in the major press.
Posted by: James Stephenson at December 30, 2003 05:17 AMI'm beginning to think Dean is that dumb. There doesn't seem to be any other decent explanation for it.
Geez, what a disaster he's going to be as the Democratic candidate.
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"Gaddafi himself said:
I will do whatever the Americans want, because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid."
Sorry Howard. Ignoring something does not make it go away. It just makes you look stupid. That quote - and that reality - is still out there. And you will be judged accordingly.
Posted by: Roark at December 30, 2003 07:17 AMI think Mr. Bierce said it best, and for always. Certainly for Howard Dean.
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An eel in the fundamental mud upon which the superstructure of organized society is reared. When we wriggles he mistakes the agitation of his tail for the trembling of the edifice."
There are exceptions but, as a rule, they're exceptional.
Posted by: Stephen at December 30, 2003 07:30 AM"You're the worst kind. You're high-maintenance, but you think you're low-maintenance"
--Billy Crystal, When Harry Met Sally
The reason Dean just does that to people, even people like Jonathan Chait, is because he's an elitist who THINKS he's a populist. The Jesus-talk he uses for his southern campaigning springs to mind. He's like the 19th century explorer who lands on the island full of primitives and quickly learns to wave the Ooga-Booga stick around so they'll think he was sent by the gods. "Hmm, they seem to worship this 'Jee-bus' chap...I'd best play along." On a good day, he's as patronizing as the crew of Star Trek The Next Generation when they found those 20th century frozen dudes---"Oh, you used MONEY back then? How quaint!"
Michael, kudos for bringing up Bush Sr.'s PR debacle (it was more than milk; as I recall the concept of a price scanner had to be explained to him during a supermarket photo-op). Shallow as it may be that was a big factor in his defeat. Dean's been on a pace to beat it though.
"I am Ganesh! This wedding angers me!"
--Homer Simpson
Dean's a contrarian with very little impulse control. The main stream press is just now starting to look inside his dirty shorts, and soon he will be a fading star. I'm reminded of Pets.com, the company that attracted billions from eager investors who believed in the internet hype and who failed to look any deeper. The company was hugely successful until they opened for business. Billions lost. It was overhyped internet marketing by a quirky set who convinced others of something illogical, that people would rather by dog food online than at the local grocery store. That would be like convincing people that governing tiny Vermont was similar to running the federal government.
Posted by: poputonian at December 30, 2003 08:40 AMIt doesn't bother me at all that Howard Dean is governor of Vermont. This only seems to be a problem for people who already don't like him. I'd like him just fine if he wasn't a foreign policy doofus.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at December 30, 2003 08:44 AMI agree that running Vermont doesn't disqualify Dean from being president. I was just challenging his assertion that it is essentially the same skills involved in running each. I think the quantum difference in size between Vermont and the federal government suggests additonal skills may be required. Dean may have those other skills, but running Vermont doesn't prove it, as he would have us believe.
Posted by: poputonian at December 30, 2003 09:21 AMI think the quantum difference in size between Vermont and the federal government suggests additonal skills may be required.
Sure, that's true. I suppose the best pre-qualification for being president is first being vice president. But vice presidents almost never win.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at December 30, 2003 10:16 AMIf Bush had done this before running for President the press would have had a field day.
Bush effectively sealed his; he shuffled them all to his father's Presidential library, then made sure that they were not collated. They're utterly unsearchable, and no one is allowed to make them searchable.
Anyway, what you have to look at this as is Dean continuing to build his case that the invasion and occupation of Iraq was poor security policy from both rational and irrational directions. Let's keep in mind that Bush's approval rating jumped ten points after Saddam was captured, even though it was of course an inevitability and even though he was essentially powerless. Most folks don't devote a lot of research or time into the electoral system -- I guarantee you that half of the American public can't name even one Democratic Presidential candidate without prompting. A good politician has to simultaneously lay out his case in detail (for the wonks and activists) and put out the bumper stickers (for the marginally interested).
Dean has to posit the question, "Are you better off now than you were four years ago" a million times in a thousand different ways. You may not find some of those ways convincing; I certainly don't. But that's the point -- some approaches are good for one segment of the population, and some are good for others.
Posted by: Kimmitt at December 30, 2003 11:15 AMSecretary of the Navy used to be a good training office for the President. It worked well for two guys named Roosevelt, anyway. Governors without personal ties to Washington seem to have a rather parochial nature. Many of the problems Carter and Clinton had were due to staff failures due to lack of connections. Many of the successes Reagan and Bush (43) had are due to close connections to meaningful and effective Washington-based staff.
Arguably Bush's greatest strength is his powerhouse staff and that he has their respect. Regardless of if that respect is due or not, Bush has the tightest discipline of any staff since FDR invented the position. While this might drive the press nuts, it appears to be serving the country well.
What Dean has to prove is that his staff won't look like an angst and tension filled episode of West Wing. Right now, the only national stage his team looks ready for has three rings.
Posted by: Patrick Lasswell at December 30, 2003 11:26 AMDean simply speaks before thinking. Even he has admitted that. He's running his campaign on pure anger, hate, and patrician entitlement manifested as faux-populism (as described above). This may seem a reductive explanation but it's all I see so far.
Whether he's "smart" or not ultimately is immaterial and just too damn hard to define. He's extremely well educated and a successful doctor, but he's already said enough stupid, ill-informed things to fill a dozen books of "Deanisms". Wesley Clark is a Rhodes Scholar and he's come off even more moronic.
They're both "smart" in some sense, "booksmart" perhaps, as well as being disciplined, diligent,and ambitioius, but neither of them have serious, consistent ideas about foreign policy,or about many other things, so they both come off quite dumb as presidential candidates.
Bush, of course, had a rap for being "dumb", because of his poor academic record (which was better than Al Gore's), and a seeming lack of intellectual curiosity. He has, however, spoken basic sense in the all-important area of foreign affairs post-September 11th. He hasn't been eloquent, but he's been mostly effective and has been consistent in making his case for his policies. By this standard he's smarter than Clark, who's been inconsistent to the point of incomprehensibility, or Dean who has popped of with all sorts of objectively stupid statements like this one, most of which he has later smarmily retracted.
Posted by: Eric Deamer at December 30, 2003 12:29 PMNo one could possibly believe that yanking Saddam out of a hole in the ground would make Al Qaeda quit the jihad.
That's his point. Capturing Saddam has no effect on Al Qaeda.
All along, Dean has argued that invading Iraq was a distraction from the War On Terror, rather than a part of it. From that perspective, his statement makes sense.
Posted by: Oberon at December 30, 2003 12:48 PMThat's his point.
No, that isn't his point. His point is to pretend that the hawks think grabbing Saddam will make Al Qaeda quit the jihad. But no one thinks this way, and no one thinks anyone thinks this way. Except for Howard Dean, apparently.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at December 30, 2003 12:59 PMBoth MT and Oberon are wrong; Dean had no point at all. "That doesn't make us any safer!" is mere sour grapes, mere emoting, sound and fury signifying nothing. Just like the Dean candidacy itself.
Posted by: Jim at December 30, 2003 01:03 PMJim's has a point. Plus, Dean is an impulsive contrarian, ever starving for attention.
Posted by: poputonian at December 30, 2003 01:19 PMBoth MT and Oberon are wrong; Dean had no point at all. "That doesn't make us any safer!" is mere sour grapes, mere emoting, sound and fury signifying nothing. Just like the Dean candidacy itself.
That's exactly it. You said succinctly exactly what I was so verbosely trying to say.
Posted by: Eric Deamer at December 30, 2003 01:23 PMMichael,
I politely disagree. Dean's basic premise is that Saddam was not a threat to America which justified invasion. If correct, it logically follows that capturing Saddam did not make us safer.
Perhaps Dean thinks all of his supporters are stupid, and perhaps Dean has some nutty belief that other people think that Bush promised that capturing Hussein would end the WoT. Personnally, I think's it's more plausible that Dean is just repeating the same argument he's made all along.
Posted by: Oberon at December 30, 2003 02:33 PMOberon,
The thing about Saddam is that he has followers who are shooting at our guys and fighting tooth and nail to make democracy in Iraq impossible. Pulling him out of a hole in the ground is a major blow, and that's why capturing him makes us safer.
Even if Saddam wasn't a threat to us before the invasion, he's been a threat to us lately.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at December 30, 2003 02:46 PMFrom a new poll of Iraqis:
How do you think Saddam's capture would affect the resistance?Posted by: Michael J. Totten at December 30, 2003 03:19 PMDecrease resistance activities 53%
Increase resistance activities 27%
Cessation of resistance 20%...
If we are safer, how come we lost 10 more troops and raised the safety alert to the orange level?
(Ha, just kidding. Couldn't resist.)
Posted by: Oberon at December 30, 2003 03:21 PM20% of Iraqis think the capture will end the resistance?
Guess they didn't get the memo that "No one could possibly believe the capture of Saddam Hussein would make every single Baathist thug in Iraq lay down his arms and go home"
(Okay, now I'm being far too obnoxious. Bad Oberon! I'll go back to blogging about Kirstie Alley on North Georgia Dogma)
Posted by: Oberon at December 30, 2003 03:24 PMOberon,
Alright, obnoxious or not, you got me on that last one. Still, I was thinking of Americans, not Iraqis.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at December 30, 2003 03:58 PMDean, for me, has shown he is a little too far into the Paul Begala school of governance.
"Executive order - stroke of the pen, law of the land...kinda cool"
Posted by: Stephen at December 30, 2003 04:02 PMOberon: Dean's basic premise is that Saddam was not a threat to America which justified invasion. If correct, it logically follows that capturing Saddam did not make us safer.
It doesn't follow. It's obviously true that Saddam's being in power posed some non-negligible risk to us that he would aid terrorists. He paid terrorists to kill people, he had WMD programs, and he hated us. So, even if you grant that the cost of war was too great for the risk reduction, it is obviously false that there was no risk reduction. This is why Dean's line was a gaffe.
Posted by: Jim at December 30, 2003 06:08 PMI agree with you, Michael, that Dean's coming from Vermont is completely irrelevant. But I think he is worse than a "foreign policy doofus." Bush may have been a doofus. Doofuses (or whatever the plural is) can learn. Dean is a liar and a con man, who is conning even himself. Not good. In fact, he is by far the worst candidate the Dems have presented in my lifetime (assuming they present him) and my lifetime is getting suspiciously long. Oh,well... I guess I should vote for a Repub for president once while I'm here on Earth.
Posted by: Roger Simon at December 30, 2003 08:33 PM"'If we are safer, how come we lost 10 more troops and raised the safety alert' to the orange level, Dean said Sunday night in Ankeny, Iowa."
Dean is the one who explicitly said the capture of Saddam made the troops safer. He thus effectively addresses the question to himself while apparently thinking he is addressing it to someone else. How is it possible to explain this? The only conclusion is either that he is an airhead, or that he really wants to be seen as one in a bad way - in the worst way.
Strong indications of this tendency, whichever it is, were shown within his 6/22 "Meet The Press" interview: an apology was not really apologizing; it was not necessary to understand the military in order to run for President, since running for the Democratic nomination for President was not running for President; churches decide if gays will be married; the second amendment does not apply to the states; he avoided parental notification in a case in which parental notification was inevitable; he would not touch s.s. -- but would do this by touching it; and so on.
Dean believes nothing in particular -- or wants to be seen in this way -- except for whatever he means by certain chants or mantras, which are characterized mainly by being mysterious. Thus, to wit, "The Iraq war cannot possibly make us safer". Therefore, regardless of what happens there or as a result, we are "not safer". All terrorists could surrender tomorrow, and we would not be "safer".
If Dean thinks he does not look frighteningly like an airhead, he is an airhead.
If Dean wants to look frighteningly like an airhead, he is an airhead, although he is doing a competent job of it.
If Dean thinks winning is the name of the game of life, he is an airhead.
On the other hand, if, as a result of evidence, Dean really thinks we are "not safer" since 9/11, he is an airhead, since he has no evidence that we are not safer [orange alerts are not red alerts], and in fact he has no criterion for judging what "safer" means -- or at least none that he will tell us, except for an odd definition of the word "safer" as mentioned above.
Uttering meaningless words or words with strange meanings makes Dean an airhead, even if the words are mysterious. In this area, Dean is an airhead's airhead.
Unless he means we could not have become more safe since 9/11, given the absence of further 9/11-like attacks since then, in which case he is correct, but still an airhead if he thinks this is bad.
Dean is the only entity ever captured by Gore's lock box. Thus he is an airhead.
Attracting airheads does not prove one is not an airhead. Being a "successful doctor" does not prove Dean is not an airhead. Jim McDermott was a successful doctor, for example -- if we even need an example.
IMHO, at some time Dean is going to have to prove he is not an airhead.
Posted by: Joe Peden at December 31, 2003 02:16 AMSome people are short sighted. Is America safer after the Iraq war, you bet your bottom dollar it is.
As long as Saddam was in Power where were the majority of American troops in the Gulf stationed? Anyone, anyone?
Saudi Arabia, where did the majority of the High Jackers come from? Anyone, anyone?
Saudi Arabia.
Coincidence? I think not, the US had to me the troops of Arabian soil. While they were there, the SA government never felt it had to do anything to stop the terrorists. After all, America and the world needed that oil to flow. But now, SA sees it has no military to speak of, the Americans are in Iraq. And now the Terrorists are blowing up Saidi's. Now the Saudi's are fighting Terrorists. Granted not as well as they should but they are taking the right steps. Slowly they will have to weed out their militants, the terrorist financers, and the militant Omars and Mullahs.
In a way, the Bush Administration has made a bold stroke into Terrorism. And the best stroke was starting the shutdown of the SA support of terrorism. Brillant.
When SA mainstreams, not long after the Iraq issue has been settled, the terrorists will only have Iran and Syria as major sponsers. Iran will hopefully fall and die much like the Soviet Union, from the inside. That will leave little Syria, occupier of Lebanon, supporter of Terrorists. And even they have recently shut down some fronts for the terrorists.
Does anyone else not see this at all?
Posted by: James Stephenson at December 31, 2003 05:11 AMWhen SA mainstreams, not long after the Iraq issue has been settled,
Is this before or after the magic fairies come by and give every little girl a pony?
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Posted by: Kimmitt at December 31, 2003 11:04 AMKimmitt: Bush's gubernatorial papers were taken from his father's library and the huge majority of them put into (I believe) the University of Texas library system. Most (all?) are no more sealed than any past Texas governor.
Posted by: JorgXMcKie at December 31, 2003 02:49 PMJames Stephenson:
Your comments are right on target. The Iraq war's effect of gravely weakening the stranglehold of the Wahaabists in Saudi Arabia and throughout the region is indeed a deeply subtle masterstroke. There is an excellent article on the largely invisible struggle betwen reformers and Wahaabists in Saudi Arabia in this month's issue of Foreign Affairs: "The Saudi Paradox" by Michael Scot Doran. Since Wahaabism is so virulently anti-Shiite, Doran points out that a free, Shiite-dominated Iraq ion Saudi Arabia's northern Border is the Wahaabists' worst nightmare. This accounts for at least some of the ferocity of the opposition and the worldwide disbelief and confusion the war has caused in its wake. Something fundamental has changed in the Middle East. The article is well worth reading and makes numerous thought-provoking points.
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