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Iraq's foreign minister [Hoshyar Zebari] accused the United Nations on Tuesday of failing his country by leaving Saddam Hussein in power for decades and appealed to the world body to assume a leading role in Baghdad immediately.Posted by Michael J. Totten at December 16, 2003 11:48 AM…
Zebari said the United Nations had failed to help rescue Iraq from "a murderous tyranny" that lasted more than 35 years and "today we are unearthing thousands of victims in horrifying testament to that failure."
"The United Nations must not fail the Iraqi people again," Zebari said.
Hey he's only saying what is obvious and the UN should listen but then they probably won't. For years I thought that the UN was the way of the future because that was how I was taught in the olden days but it has only become a club for despots and despot wannabes. The security council needs to be restructured to represent the emerging powers (India) in the world and perhaps retire the declining ones (France) from it.
Posted by: jimcee at December 16, 2003 11:58 AMRather like insisting that an negligent or abuseive boozed-up father get custody of the children since he owes them for breaking up the home.
Posted by: Bill at December 16, 2003 02:28 PMThe only way that I can see the UN failing Iraq again is by getting involved.
Posted by: Anticipatory Retaliation at December 16, 2003 05:40 PMDid you see the way the BBC is spinning this?
Posted by: linden at December 16, 2003 10:36 PMDid you see the way the BBC is spinning this?
That's really pathetic. They did that on purpose.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at December 17, 2003 12:19 AMOne of the things I've discovered since 911 is that the liberal media does exist. I didn't believe it before and found it to be a gigantic right wing joke, but I do see their point now.
Posted by: linden at December 17, 2003 01:59 AMI dunno. As far as the BBC story goes, I thought the little summary of Zebari's statement was more or less fair. It did quote "The United Nations must not fail the Iraqi people again." The story quoted wasn't even mainly about Zebari... I'd look to see if the BBC's made any mention of the statement elsewhere before I made a call on this one.
The statement that the UN ought to be taking a bigger role does seem like the biggest news in the statement. I mean, Zebari may be upset with the UN, but he's still calling for them to be involved. I thought it was mostly the US that wasn't allowing them to have a larger role... or more, that the argument was that US wanted any role they took to be under US command, while the Frenchies and suchlike wanted to share authority.
To me, anyway, it reads more like a backhanded swipe against the US than anything.
Posted by: agrajag at December 17, 2003 06:04 AMThere is certainly a slant to the BBC coverage, but I see it as almost unconscious--there is an implicit assumtion that the U.N. is a hallowed institution, representative of the vaunted "international community," and thus automatically above reproach or even reportorial investigation into their actual track record, which is abysmal, at least in the peacekeeping realm. I'm glad Kofi Annan is reported to be "shaken" by Zebari's testimony. "Now is not the time to point fingers?" Well, actually, it is the time to point fingers, make it perfectly clear that international obstructionism and support of Saddam's bloody regime was noted and bitterly resented by Iraqis, and then move on.
As much as the U.N.'s coddling of repulsive regimes upsets me, I still want them to paly a more constructive role in opposing dictatorships and not beating Israel to death with a rhetorical stick. I would prefer Annan be stirred, not shaken, in direct contradiction to 007's martini instructions. Annan knows the U.N. has been marginalized and needs serious reform, and has said so, but the U.N. diplomats as a group are still in serious denial about their own marginalization and irrelevance in the wake of the SC debacle leading up to the invasion.
Posted by: Daniel Calto at December 17, 2003 06:40 AMNo, it's a swipe at the UN. For not saving Iraq sooner, for not supporting the US sooner, and for leaving after becoming a target.
Zebari slams those UNSC folk who wanted to appease Saddam, but doesn't discuss the decision making power, which is Kofi's big sticking point.
If the UN doesn't go back, the Iraqis should keep slamming them.
Posted by: Tom Grey at December 17, 2003 06:42 AMThe Iraqis are only the latest in a long line of people the UN has failed. As a commander of UN forces in Bosnia stated, there is a huge gap between UN resolutions and the resolve to execute those resolutions.
Posted by: Zhombre at December 17, 2003 06:53 AMTom: I agree the U.N. failed Iraq miserably, and I certainly get some satisfaction in seeing them called out in a public forum on it.
As Zhombre astutely points out, however, the U.N. suffers from a huge gap between making resolutions and generating the resolve to effectively address a situation. This is even more acute when it comes to military interventions. Not only does the U.N. frequently lack resolve to actually tackle these issues, but even when it has resolve (as before the Iraq War) it utterly lacks the means and resources to put armies on the ground and is completely dependent on the U.S. and a very few other military powers (such as Australia in the East Timor case) to back up their resolve with credible military force. The blue helmets, frequently not even armed, are semi-competent, frequently corrupt, and simply not a credible force militarily, though certain U.N. peacekeeping forces, like those in Rwqanda, have been truly heroic despite little support from the bigwigs in NYC.
Posted by: Daniel Calto at December 17, 2003 07:15 AMI believe one can research accounts of UN forces in situations where they were barely able to defend themselves, let alone effect any ceasefire or relief efforts; in Rwanda I recall reading of UN peacekeepers who were killed by militants despite pleas for assistance.
Posted by: Zhombre at December 17, 2003 07:26 AMI may be wrong but I thought foreign troops in Rwanda were protecting the Hutus that were killing the Tutsis. Something about the Hutus being Francophones. Either way the UN is useless except as a social club for dictators' lackeys and Eurotrash diplomats. Time to start a new club for more liberal countries and to exclude those that refuse to libralize.
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The French had long supported the genocidiares prior to the massacres, and French meddling likely resulted in thousand more deaths. The U.N. forces in refugee camps near the Rwandan borders, however, sheltered thousands from harm without direct orders from the U.N. to do so. The Canadian commander, Lt. General Romeo Dallaire, made heroic efforts to save lives. The U.S. also shares some of the blame for inaction, though less than the French. Here's a link which gives the basics: http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/rwanda8.htm
Posted by: Daniel Calto at December 17, 2003 10:02 AMMr. Calto,
Point well taken and thank you for the link.
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