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Some goofball in the comments section asked:
Michael J. Totten are you for real? This blog seems like a front.For those amused or intrigued or made suspicious by the question, my real-world friend Patrick Lasswell, who also has a blog, has kindly vouched for my corporeal existence.
(But hey! Maybe Patrick isn't real either! How do we know?)
Posted by Michael J. Totten at November 1, 2003 05:45 PMAnother example of the paranoia of the left. Because no liberal minded person could possibly think like you Mike, or have your opinions, you must be some psy-op by the CIA.
Posted by: eric at November 1, 2003 06:16 PMI've known Mike for over 20 years. If he aint real then... ahahhhh! I cant take the metaphysical preasure!
Posted by: sblafren at November 1, 2003 06:23 PMJeez. None of us are real. It's the Matrix. Remember.
Posted by: infamouse at November 1, 2003 06:46 PMDoing a search on the Oregonian web site should indicate fairly clearly that my brother, mother, and father exist and that they acknowledge somebody named Patrick to be a part of their family. OryCon does exist, and I am included in several of their historical web sites. All of this assumes that I am in fact the person I claim to be. On the other hand, anybody who was me would certainly not put up with somebody pretending to be me, as is clear from the public record.
What bugged the hell out of me was the revolutionary denouncement of your position. Not that your ideas were mistaken, but that they were deliberately insidious. It still bugs the hell out of me that some people would think it necessary to create a conspiracy in order to express disillusionment with the radical left. Perhaps they need the eggs.
Posted by: Patrick Lasswell at November 1, 2003 07:02 PMFWIW, Michael, I believe you exist, and no, I don't think you're a DINO. I do have to wonder if you're a traditional "Southern Democrat", though, because you seem to be more aligned with Texas's Charlie Wilson or pre-switch Phil Gramm than with, say, Molly Ivins or Jim Hightower.
(Yeah, they're all Texans. I'm a transplanted Texan in Chicago now. And yeah, it's a particular brand of Southern Democrat in Texas, too, that doesn't jive well with Southern Democrats in, say, Georgia. But still, that's how I've been pegging your remarks.)
Your decision to all-but-endorse Bush is, to me, mind-boggling, but I don't question your party affiliation. Just your party loyalty, which only really works if you're a partisan Democrat like me. ;) )
Posted by: Kenneth G. Cavness at November 1, 2003 07:49 PMI have reason to believe that not only are Michael Totten and Patrick Lasswell not real, but that no blogger is: they're in fact all Joe Klein. Sorry to be the one to let the cat out of the bag.
Posted by: Jeremy Brown at November 1, 2003 08:32 PMKenneth,
I don't think of myself as a Southern Democrat at all. I've never even been to the South, and have never been directly influenced by the culture of that region. And I certainly don't admire the history of the Southern Democrats at all.
I think of myself as a Roosevelt/Truman Democrat. But these days there aren't too many of them left. And so I may, in the end, have to settle for Independent.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at November 1, 2003 08:33 PMDon't forget JFK in there Michael. And yeah, eric, there are plenty of conspiracy theories on the right as well. So be careful about brushing a groupe of people without examining yourself first.
Posted by: FH at November 1, 2003 09:39 PMThat's really weird, because I totally think of myself as a Truman Democrat too, and yet I disagree with you on a majority of the issues you bring up. Guess that's why he was always a divisive president, eh? ;)
Go ahead and give us Democrats hell, whether you're Southern or not, Michael.
And I wouldn't be too hard on the Southern Democrat history, at least recent history (the guys I named); there's a lot of those guys left. Zell Miller's a perfect example of one.
Posted by: Kenneth G. Cavness at November 1, 2003 10:30 PMHey!...if you're all gonna idolize the Truman-Kennedy-FDR foreign policy, for God sakes, please don't forget to mention Woodrow Wilson. The man was a visionary years before their time and they simply followed in his ideological footsteps. I mean, wasn't that the general post-second-World-War consensus, afterall: That Woodrow was right?!
Posted by: Grant McEntire at November 1, 2003 11:01 PMMichael:
I don't know what planet the accuser comes from, but clearly he's beyond Mars.
As a conservative republican, I suspect that my views regarding domestic policy would differ significantly from yours. That's fine; that's what politics (and this country) are all about. In fact, I suspect that we are very far apart when it comes to domestic policy.
Yet...you have my respect, and I mean that in a very sincere sense. This country is at war with a very real danger - and I thank you for articulating it over these past months.
I am predisposed to voting for George Bush in 2004. Personally, as a conservative, I can find fault with a number of his domestic policies. However, I think this administration takes the threat of Islamic terror VERY seriously. I don't get the sense any of the contenders for the Democratic nomination do. They'd rather talk about this or that benefit for this or that domestic constituency. This I cannot accept. I will go head to head with anyone regarding the appropriate level of taxes, spending and influence the federal government should have on this country. However, the real issue at hand is security. I think you and a number of other liberals get this. For this issue, I don't care about red and blue states - I care about defending this country, and I will gladly join hands with anyone who believes this is a nation and an ideal worth defending. We can enjoy the luxury of arguing about domestic policy when we ensure that our children don't have to worry about random death. (I have a 10 year old daughter who constantly talks about death and airplanes because of 9/11. I cannot tell you just HOW pissed off I am at those sons-of-bitches - and yes, Saudi Arabia is firmly in my cross-hairs and will be for quite some time).
You have my thanks for providing a sincere and coherent response from the left since 9/11. I look forward to the day when we can argue heatedly about domestic policy - because our safety is secure from radical Islamic terrorists.
Tim Irwin
Posted by: Tim at November 1, 2003 11:19 PMAs long as we're outing ourselves, I've always been a Roddenberry Clesian.
Posted by: anne.elke at November 1, 2003 11:27 PMIt's funny because I've long viewed myself as a Truman Democrat, with the understanding that no political boss ever won my personal loyalty. I also always understood that Truman was always a Southern Democrat, he was just the first one after the Civil War to make a rational decision on matters of race. He was certainly not the last. What Michael decries are the Boll Weevils, the Dixiecrats of ancient tarnished memory.
Posted by: Patrick Lasswell at November 2, 2003 12:08 AMWhat Michael decries are the Boll Weevils, the Dixiecrats of ancient tarnished memory.
That is correct. And Truman was from Missouri. Sorta Southern and sorta Midwestern. Don't know if he actually counts as Southern. He was no Strom Thurmond.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at November 2, 2003 12:31 AMMichael,
The guy who questioned your existence and accused your blog of being a front ("Scott") spent most of his comment space quoting in full a spin piece sent to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution by the former chairman of the Georgia Democratic Party that basically smeared and disowned Zell Miller. I suspect "Scott" is the kind of partisan activist who's never met an independent-thinking Democrat, only predictable members of various constituencies of the kind picked to create focus groups for political consultants, the very hacks who have turned the Democratic primary into the sad farce it has become. Those guys need to spend more time listening to a wider variety of uncontrolled opinion instead of focus groups, pollster samples, and predictable media.
I'm an ex-Dem who's never voted for a Republican presidential candidate except for John Anderson when he ran as an independent in 1980. I'm at a loss whom to vote for this time around.
Posted by: Joel at November 2, 2003 12:53 AMHe was profiled on normblog. He's real.
Posted by: Norman Geras at November 2, 2003 01:58 AMHere's another cheer for MJT.
I'm a conservative - not a Republican - and I put it this way because I approach politics with a certain set of, conservative, ideals. It is true that I usually vote Republican (occasionally Libertarian) but that's because the candidate's positions most closely match mine. My party affiliation, such as it is, is tenuous - constantly being evaluated and subject to my assessment of the match between what I believe and what the party advocates.
I see MJT as operating in a similar way, albeit from the Liberal side of the ledger. And that's why I visit this blog every day - I can count on finding good information, reasonably and rationally argued positions, and proper facts to back it all up.
Keep up the good work - real or not!
Posted by: steve at November 2, 2003 03:54 AMToday, 15 American soldiers died when their helicopter was shot down in Iraq, and the usual suspects will use this loss to question our policies in the Middle East.
If you want to know what we are fighting for, it's worth remembering the words written by Michael Totten yesterday in the comments:
"I hope the repressive Arab regimes are all destabilized. I am not a stability junky. Brett Scowcroft is. It's a conservative point of view which I just don't share.
"I am not a radical leftist in the American context. But in the Middle East, bring it on, baby. Break eggs. Up with revolution and down with religious fanaticism and dictatorship.
Posted by Michael J. Totten on November 1, 2003"
Michael, you are a clear-headed thinker, and visionary. Thank you for helping us understand why we are fighting, and that American blood is not being shed in vain, but to make a new Middle East. As you said, "bring it on baby"!
Take no notice of those who accuse you of being a shill for Likud, or a fake, Michael. You are one of the finest writers in the blogosphere.
Posted by: David R. at November 2, 2003 07:12 AMMichael, I would take this as an extreme compliment. The guy probably thought you were so good-looking in your photograph, he couldn't believe you were real!
Posted by: Roger L. Simon at November 2, 2003 09:06 AMThe guy has a point: the number of liberal Democrats who actually advocate liberal democratic (in both senses) principles is indeed vanishing by the day.
Posted by: Gabriel Gonzalez at November 2, 2003 10:03 AMMichael,
I've noticed that the left-leaning criticism you get is along the lines of "he's carrying Bush's water" or "he's not a real liberal", and now they even question if you are real period.
What it boils down to is that they want you to shut up. However, much to their dismay, they can't shout you down on the internet. Not like the good old days on campus. So get used to the personal attacks. As long as you deviate from the party mantra, you will be smeared by the thought police. Just as Orwell and Hayek foretold.
Posted by: HA at November 2, 2003 10:17 AMI think he's real. Roger thinks he's real. Patrick thinks he's real. Kimmett and HA think he's real! He must be real, dammit.
Posted by: d-rod at November 2, 2003 10:30 AMMike,
Enough, time to fess up. Report immediately to VRWC HQ for new instruction.
Posted by: marek at November 2, 2003 11:25 AMSomething that I am surprised no one has brought up yet is this: that neo-conservatives all used to be liberals, like Michael, but were put of by the actions of the left, and eventually became something else(what that is is still up to debate). Roger has already taken the first step down that road, the question is, will Michael?
Posted by: FH at November 2, 2003 02:09 PMFH, I know more than a few people who think Orwell would have been a "neocon".
Posted by: infamouse at November 2, 2003 03:52 PMInteresting that you say that infamouse, as IIRC, Orwell was a socialist. Just much more pragmatic than the "intellectual" socialists of his time.
Posted by: FH at November 2, 2003 04:00 PMI'm ignoring the other comments in this thread. Michael, I've had this site loading for over two and a half hours, via Mozilla Firebird. That's too much. Can you please change your HTML to something reasonable? Thanks.
I'd like to actually read this site, and not just have my browser revolve over and over and over again, whichever browser I choose. I get the same results via Netscape and, oh, god, IE.
Posted by: Gary Farber at November 2, 2003 06:12 PMWhatever. It took me three hours to load your site. Jaysus, Michael, fix your fricking HTML!
I can't be the only person who can't get through to you.
Posted by: Gary Farber at November 2, 2003 07:03 PMGary, you may want to check with your ISP. (Michael's front page loads for me in under five seconds, and I'm on POTS.) And I don't see anything in the HTML that would account for such a delay.
Posted by: jaed at November 2, 2003 08:12 PMThis whole "Totten can't be real, must be a schtick" meme is a great example of "winning the battle, losing the war".
Yeah, the democrats are doing a creat job of cleaning out the ideological clutter from their tent.
All the easier for them to have a sympathetic ear when Bush wins in 2004 and picks up House and Senate seats.
And if you REALLY want to be depressed, look at the seats that are up for a battle in 2006.
Posted by: Jaybird at November 2, 2003 08:45 PMAre you absolutely certain you're real, Michael? Better check. rofl!
Sorry... but this "Is he a real person?" debates one of the funniest things I've seen online in awhile. ;]
Posted by: Ironbear at November 2, 2003 09:56 PMFrank J of IMAO could make this a perfect Filthy Lie. The ones about Glenn Reynolds putting puppies in a blender, Andrew Sullivan being a closet heterosexual (only pretending to be gay to get women), and the Vodka Pundit being a teatotaler were all hillarious, and I imagine we'd all get a chuckle over him making one about Michael Totten being an agent of the VRWC would be quite amusing to say the least, plus it would be a filthy lie after all :)
I remember learning that Hayek and Keynes were personal friends who argued Economic policy on Cambridge rooftops as air raid wardens during WWII.
I find ideological purity a philosophy for sheep and this applies equally to the right and left as well as moderates who decide to follow a checklist of positions without really thinking about them.
I have a friend who is gay, socialist, and a Christian fundamentalist, which is probably one of the most interesting mixes to make, plus he favors stateless socialism, though to me socialism puts a heavy emphasis on the state, unless he is referring to a collective socialism practiced by a small voluntary group (like Jesuits).
Keep up the Good work, Michael, and Indymedia may honor you with a deck of cards for their least favorite bloggers.
Posted by: Green Baron at November 2, 2003 10:35 PMIn two days the post with all the South America photos will be moved off the front page. Then the site should load faster. Sorry it's taking so long, Gary. Get DSL and your woes shall vanish.
Posted by: Michael J. Totten at November 2, 2003 11:28 PMGreen Baron,
I have a friend who is gay, socialist, and a Christian fundamentalist, which is probably one of the most interesting mixes to make
Almost as interesting as the pacifist-metrosexual-confederate-flag-in-the-back-of-the-pickup demographic that Howard Dean is targeting.
Posted by: HA at November 3, 2003 03:02 AM"Michael Totten" is just an anagram for "Melt not the CIA!"
Not to mention "CIA tenth motel".
Obviously you're a front for the CIA and it's Rockefeller puppetmasters.
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